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differences worldwide would vanish if we

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Jimmy judge on the game changer Network

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well well well welcome fade to black

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the spoke radio for the masses yeah man

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today's Tuesday October 2nd 2018 two

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hundred and seventy eight days into the

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new year just 87 days left we're live

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from a bunker somewhere in the middle of

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beautiful downtown Burbank California

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and I would like to welcome everybody

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listening all around the world all

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across the United States hither and

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this is fade to black for kjc are the

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planets our meals to be Church what is

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crackin everybody how you doing got a

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great show tonight great week here on

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fade to black and tonight

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chance Gardner is here that's right

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week online symposium magical Egypt with

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of the best researchers and guests how

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do I know because I'm gonna be one of

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those guests tomorrow so we'll see you

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guys over there for that chance Carter

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short minutes Graham bonnet guitarist

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Thursday another Fator night with open

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lines all night long Jon Rappoport

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of course will be here but there's no

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more fake newsroom live followed by open

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we're you know it's it's a back catalog

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fader knots you know got to see all of

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me get to some breaking news today two

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pieces of mail delivered to the Pentagon

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mail facility yesterday have initially

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Secretary of Defense James Madison and

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John Richardson if ingested ricin causes

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nausea vomiting and internal bleeding of

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failure of the liver spleen and kidneys

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collapse of the circulatory system ricin

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announce a free ad-supported IMDB

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streaming service seems like everybody

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passenger capsule designed to carry

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passengers at over 700 miles per hour

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was unveiled today in Cadiz Spain

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transportation technologies HTT the

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vessel has been built to scale to

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transport passengers at ultra superfast

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speeds through magnetic tubes now they

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announced today it will have a Las Vegas

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to Los Angeles trip in only 20 minutes

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HTT CEO Dirk Albourne says that a full

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Hyperloop system would be up in running

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incredible a team of scientists has

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created a device which allows human

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beings to cooperate while playing a game

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neural connection called brain net

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transmit the sender's instructions to

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magnetic stimulation a TMS using these

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devices the three participants share

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their thoughts and play Tetris together

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Brian Regan today is 61 and I'm gonna

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guitarist Jim root today is 47 on this

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day in history in 1836 Darwin returns to

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now this has been vetted now listen to

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me space has a distinct smell that smell

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is a bouquet of diesel fumes gunpowder

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and barbecue the aroma is produced by

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dying stars and that's your fate or fact

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tonight very special guests chance

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the batter's box tomorrow night new 20

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be here Thursday night is another Fator

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night with Jon Rappoport and is no more

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to welcome to fade to black for the

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first time guitarist James Curt good

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evening man how are you hey Jimmy I'm

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doing great you know I'm talking to you

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man it doesn't get any better than that

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and you know before we before we get off

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off and talking about guitars which is

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my favorite thing by the way I just got

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a I got a 2008 Les Paul Standard honey

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this and I had it's just one of those

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the wall but man it's a beautiful guitar

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I miss track I yours crack I will talk

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strats in a second

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you call yourself now I want everybody

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to know you know Graham has been on this

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show in the past and you know he's a

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great guy and one of the great singers

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out there but you reached out to me and

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you reached out to me and it was a great

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email by the way but you are you signed

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the email Kurt I'm going to throw you

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under the bus right now for everybody

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okay you signed the email the

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paranormal guitar player yeah that's

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right I remember that yeah and now let's

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let's go right there man you you are a

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and coast to coast and fade to black and

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you're always listening you you were

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over in England you guys are on a

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European tour and you are riding me dude

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I'm about to go check out Rendlesham

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forest and and I'm gonna send you a

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report by the way you never sent me

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pictures but anyway yeah well tell you

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more about that but you are fully

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engaged in this community aren't you

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yeah completely and and you know I was

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and I just came to my mind that my

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father bought the book Chariots of the

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Gods when I first came out I was like

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this little kid and I see this book and

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completely fascinated and then when the

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movie came out I remember he took me to

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see the movie so I've been into it you

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know just childhood I did the same thing

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you know my mom yeah my mom did the same

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thing Chariots of the Gods the book in

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the movie when I was when it came out I

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mean it was it was a long time ago and

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it I think for a lot of this Kurt you

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and I share the very same story with our

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generation I've heard it over and over

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you know my mom my dad you know gave

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each era to the gods and and I've talked

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to Eric about that erich von daniken

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about how many lives he changed with

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that book and if he was aware of that

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but absolutely you and I would not have

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connected this that's a strange thing

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you and I were talking the other day and

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you and I have all of the same friends

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right all of the same deal I was like

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90% of the people we know are the same

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people right and we have never met well

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we may have but we don't remember it but

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it's it's ufos and erich von daniken

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they're brought to you on

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a black yeah it's pretty good yeah there

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was another book called UFOs here and

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now yep that I picked up and I would go

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to the library and just anything related

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to Egyptology or UFOs or you know

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there's a whole range of topics that I'm

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extremely interested in like Egyptology

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and and you know astrophysics and yeah

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you know cosmos was big at my house you

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know that have to be on yeah all of all

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you know and that's that's what I really

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enjoy about this community and during

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doing this show is that we can talk

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about all of these things whether it's

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Egypt of the pyramids or UFOs or ghosts

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in the paranormal and and in physics and

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stars and space and and Carl Sagan and

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guitar right I can do that's what makes

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it perfect I was like ties to the whole

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thing together right have you have you

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ever seen anything strange in the sky

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you know I have and that was another

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thing that I wanted to elaborate on and

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kind of see if other people feel the

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same way it's like when you sees

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something you know it's so overwhelming

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that the next day you can talk to the

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person you were with us like was that

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real did I did we really see that I know

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who is that a dream you know what I mean

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right

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well what have you seen well I I swear I

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saw one of those hovering big black

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giant things with lights around the

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perimeter kind of maybe triangular or

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semi rectangular and what where was this

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when was it it must have been about 20

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years ago in Orange County California

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and were you with anybody well that's

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where the memory starts you know playing

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tricks with you because I think

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anything that overwhelming is hard to

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believe and your brain kind of like

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doesn't know how to process that right

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right right right yeah it's like you're

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going mended that really no back no no

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way man I was you know I was just you

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know that was must have been something I

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didn't really see no okay I'm gonna I'm

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gonna flip you out really quick Neil

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Turbin Neil Turbin

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right now I've no no okay right he was

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your singer for a while Neil who I've

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known [\h__\h] I don't even know how long

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I've known Neil he came on the show and

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and told this amazing story about this

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UFO that followed him up the 405 freeway

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and you know doug aldrich on this show

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coming back from vegas right the the

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rock vault he said he said every time he

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drives back from Vegas on the 15 he

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always sees a UFO Graham bonnet

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on this show right these are all friends

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of ours right great had his famous

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sighting out off of Malibu and and wrote

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what's what's that song that you know

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yeah yeah yeah yeah you know and it's

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it's just a really strange thing when it

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comes to for me musicians and et you

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know I think it has to do with the

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artistic sensibility the open mind the

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creativeness but I think it allows

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things to happen and I firmly believe

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that well it makes sense to me you know

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the and the other part is when I started

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this show Kurt I thought to myself if I

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just be me and I talk about the things

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that I love and the things that interest

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me I'm going to attract an audience that

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that is is is right there and as soon as

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I talk about guitars my Twitter feed or

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my email fills up with with all of its

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as guitars or you know or or it just

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doesn't it doesn't matter you know

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and you know whether I'm talking about

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Dimebag Darrell or or Egypt or the Great

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Pyramid everybody is into the same

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things and that's what I really enjoy so

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let's talk about you for a second today

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you guys are premiering a world premiere

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of your new video long island tea what

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is it like playing for for Graham bonnet

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who has the the history of only having

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the finest shredders in his band you are

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you're up there in the same class of all

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of those guitar players but does that

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add pressure well that's a great

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question the pressure is there obviously

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I mean that's the given but it's how you

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handle it and how you feel inside you

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know Graham makes it very easy to feel

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comfortable around him you know I've

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worked with a lot of people a lot of

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great singers but Graham has this

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incredible gift of just you know making

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you feel at home making you feel like

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you belong and that makes such a big

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difference you know and and for you did

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do you guys go back and do things like

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you know rainbow tunes and lost in

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Hollywood Alcatraz stuff or are you

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doing only grant Bona tunes oh yes we're

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actually have been doing rainbow and MSG

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and Alcatraz and in fact this latest

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tour is the 35 years anniversary of no

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parole from rock and roll so we're doing

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the entire Alcatraz record that featured

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Jimmy Waldo and Yngwie Malmsteen Jan you

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beena

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Gary Shea and Grandpa it's a great

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record if I recommend it to anybody that

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I mean I'm sure most people have been

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you know heard it but it's one of the

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best you know guitar records and just

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musical and lyrics you see the thing

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about Graham is he's not just not just a

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good screamer

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he's like the thinking man's lyricist in

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metal music it's a

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he is so melodic I remember sitting with

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him discussing the old days oh you know

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old older stuff and and he's like man

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you know if if really if I had my

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druthers the rock-and-roll stuff is

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great man but man I like Detroit you

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know I like R&B and Mele the truth and

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he's got that whole melodic sensibility

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behind him so when when rainbow came and

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it snatched him up I don't even think

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Richie at that time appreciated the

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melodic because you know they got him in

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because he was just you know I had this

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beautiful rock-and-roll voice but he had

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that sensibility of harmony and melody

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that backed him up which made all of

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those songs so so singable right you

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know what I mean those courses were huge

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of course yeah of course and you know

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watching him you know do his thing and

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working with him in the studio it's just

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amazing because he's like an orchestra

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you know he when he said when he sings

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not only is he thinking about you know

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the lead vocal but he's got all this

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really incredible harmony you know that

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he loves to work with you know so that's

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something if you really pay attention to

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his music you know it's there now how

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about usually always there and and how

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about you are you able to be the Kurt

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James that you want to be in the Graham

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bonnet band you know you know this goes

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way back you know I was in Steeler you

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know right after Yngwie Malmsteen and

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then when I met a vein you know we

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became you know really good friends

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right away and when he left

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Alcatraz I go ma'am you know now that's

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where I want to be but due to

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circumstances beyond my control

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I never really got introduced properly

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to the organization and 35 you 35 years

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later Here I am happier than a pig and

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you know what I mean

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just perfect for me you guys are in the

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middle of a tour right now and where are

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you playing like tomorrow night worried

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off to we're going up to Seattle it's a

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place called El Corazon it's it's right

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in the heart of Seattle and it's a great

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place to play from what I hear I've

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never been there before but looking

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forward to it that would be tomorrow

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night yeah and so you're coming through

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California you've got a bunch of dates

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here you just played the Viper Room

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which I missed but you're coming back to

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California you just got back from Europe

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it's pretty much back-to-back dates with

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Graham yeah actually we're stopping in

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Las Vegas are you playing vamped that's

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right you're playing the counts place

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that's right so we're gonna hit that and

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then we're playing this really quaint

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amazing little place up in the upper

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desert a map hilltop yeah yeah Apple

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Valley hilltop and in tavern and they

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have accommodations there for anybody

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that you know gets too happy to drive

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back home and then then that would be

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after that is San Diego yeah brick by

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brick is a famous place in San Diego

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yeah that's an amazing I'm gonna just

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let the audience know I'm gonna try to

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talk Reed into a road trip and head up

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that Apple Valley next Friday night to

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come and see you guys play I can't

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believe I missed the Viper Room but what

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what do you just want to do a quick gear

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rundown before we run out of time this

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is for me yeah I know that you're a

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Strad guy what's your main strat well

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right now the one that seems to work the

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best is actually one that I've had for

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over 20 years maybe 25 years and it's a

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a 77 neck maple neck on a 75 ash body

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it's very heavy and it was these were

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just parts that were you know back in

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the day you know oh you look in the

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recycler and there'd be a neck for 70

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bucks or a body for 50 whatever and this

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was

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stuff and I just three together on a

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lark and when I played it at rehearsal

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it was just like oh my god and this

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thing stays in tune sounds huge it's

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like the one so that's what my main one

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it's the it's the yellow kind of like a

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creamy yellow scalloped neck maple neck

491
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strat that's amazing wow you scalloped

492
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your necks okay yeah I don't always play

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scalloped next I believe that the wood

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sounds better than air if you do the if

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you do the math they're you know they're

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so if you take away too much wood you're

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losing some of the tone you know so if

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it ain't broke I don't fix it I mean if

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I can play it and it's not scalloped and

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it works then I leave it alone but if it

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certain guitars just the frets are too

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small or whatever you got a skeleton and

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what's your what what amps are using ah

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well there I've been a big fan of a

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marshall amplification and and you know

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I grew up in actually I graduated from

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South Pasadena High School so when I was

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growing up you know Eddie Van Halen was

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the guy in town and dish uh you know

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flyers and our lockers and you know we'd

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go up and see him at parties and at the

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Pasadena Civic anyway you know so the

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plexi super lead Lexi's from like 67 869

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they're like the holy grail for us you

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know Pasadena Boys

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that's right so I'm using yeah I'm using

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a 69 plexi it just sounds amazing and I

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love it I thought you were gonna tell me

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it has a hose a mod as well actually you

520
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know hosting maintained his ass but he

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never had an extra preamp gain or any of

522
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that stuff you know it was just the good

523
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son yeah that's right that's right and

524
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what are you use them for pedals well

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actually right now I've customized a

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couple of my own pedals that one's

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called a phase 91 all right okay yeah

528
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right you know and then the other is off

529
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the gray do t overdrive 250 but it's

530
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just a

531
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little bit more clear sounding so it

532
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sounds a little more natural but I do

533
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have all the original phase my knees and

534
00:26:59,889 --> 00:26:57,230
Grady's all that stuff so you're using a

535
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single channel Marshall and a couple of

536
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pedals and a strat and you're good to go

537
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bets that's it man that's it yeah it's

538
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yeah other than that the tone actually

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the more crap you put in front of the

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app the the worse it sounds yeah that's

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right that's right yeah I'm a you know

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for me straight unless you've got a

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crybaby down there or phase 90 right the

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other net straight hard line to the amp

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man with a little verb and you're good

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to go

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and that's it's always the best tone the

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louder the better but that's me Kurt I

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can't wait to see you guys next Friday

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here in Southern California and Apple

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Valley but all my best to everybody in

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the band the video is great the new

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album is great the tour's been going

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great and I just wish you guys the best

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safe travels out there and then we'll

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talk some UFOs next Friday night

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you got it thanks Jimmy Thank You Kurt

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Kurt James yeah thank you so much hurt

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everybody can go to the Graham bonnet

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man calm and it's right there full tour

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schedule is up the new video was just

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is there and you can also follow the

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Graham bonnet on Twitter and I just

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found out right before the show I didn't

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even know this but Kurt is not on

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Twitter but you can definitely follow

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everything right there at the Graham

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bonnet on Twitter I'm gonna take a quick

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break Thank You Kurt you guys have safe

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travels we'll see you next Friday right

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here in Southern California I'll be

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gonna talk about the magical Egypt

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online symposium that is going on right

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now October 1st through October 11th

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almost two straight weeks of the best

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guests including blared Scranton last

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night they had a Rick Strassman on Chris

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Dunn Edie the Edie Nightingale so many

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more we're gonna talk about all of that

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and of course chance is a multi

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award-winning graphic designer 3d

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animator cinematographer editor 20-year

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career promoting motion producing motion

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networks including 20th Century Fox

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Paramount Studios NBC Universal and he

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retired from television in 2001 to make

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documentaries and that includes of

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course magical Egypt 1 & 2 with John

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Anthony West and let's sound let's just

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get straight to a chance welcome back to

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the show how are you Jimmy I am

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fantastic and I'm super excited to be

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here because people keep telling me I

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have a face for radio

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yeah a face like that you should do

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radio you know I got to see you on video

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about a half hour ago and I'm gonna I'm

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gonna concur my friend I'm gonna concur

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I'm gonna concur what let's get let's

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get straight to it there lots to talk

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about tonight one of the things that I

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want to just right off the bat one of

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the important guests that you forgot to

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mention is the iconic Jimmy Church is

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joining me tomorrow night

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they know Jimmy from such shows as fade

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to black the iconic art Bell art bells

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gonna there's gonna be a big kind of a

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kickoff we're doing a three-hour

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extravaganza tomorrow night and the

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symposium lies before us I'm so excited

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to because we have such a collection of

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just the pinnacle of thinkers and

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researchers and blowing open this this

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subject of ancient Egypt and what it

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means to us yes and the idea behind this

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that is a lot of work to do a two-week

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conference I mean that's that's insane

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and you've put together yeah you know

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what actually let's take the time let's

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go down this list I mean you know Laird

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Scranton Rick Strassman to kick things

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off right of course you and I but

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[Music]

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incredible so let's talk about why I

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mean Laird is obvious but Rick what what

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a what a great idea Rick Strassman was

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in the original magical Egypt and not

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only is he just a fascinating person in

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his own right and he was friends with

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Terence Mckenna who I just just

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absolutely love but Rick Strassman is

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one of those examples of what magical

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Egypt is about where this one branch of

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the humanities has been dictating what

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we believe about ancient Egypt for you

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know most of modern civilization and

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their story now is the same as it was

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back in the 50s whereas a lot of it well

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as the rest of the world keeps moving on

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science keeps perfecting itself and

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because of magical Egypt because of your

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00:37:32,280 --> 00:37:29,619
show and because if things are pointing

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to the mystery of Egypt more and more

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00:37:36,120 --> 00:37:34,080
scientists are coming online

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mathematicians and engineers and

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chemists psychologists astronomers every

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00:37:43,890 --> 00:37:41,950
single branch of science as time goes by

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science is getting to the place where

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they're starting to recognize things

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from ancient Egypt and the collective

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voice of Magical Egypt and really the

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collective voice that Egypt expresses

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itself in it's starting to turn and it's

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to become a parent that what we've

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thought of as the message of ancient

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Egypt that was kind of a proto religious

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superstitious thing about gods and

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00:38:08,130 --> 00:38:06,069
whatnot is really more correctly thought

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of as a misunderstood science and

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because you know in the 1900s in the

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1800s when we were trying to understand

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Egypt you know science was in a certain

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place and there was some things we could

764
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recognize it so much of it we absolutely

765
00:38:22,559 --> 00:38:20,319
couldn't recognize but as science

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progresses and things like string theory

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00:38:27,809 --> 00:38:25,510
and subatomic physics become more

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understood people like Laird can point

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back at the Dogon and the ancient

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Egyptians who had this iconic message

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that perfectly described what we know

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00:38:39,900 --> 00:38:37,539
now is subatomic physics where Rick

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00:38:42,930 --> 00:38:39,910
Strassman comes in really and is so

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relevant to this is most of Egyptology

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has this idea that the Egyptians didn't

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know what the brain was for and we all

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know from you know if you've ever seen

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00:38:55,740 --> 00:38:53,950
Hindu or Tibetan or Buddhist art those

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00:39:00,000 --> 00:38:55,750
beautiful Buddhist temples the beautiful

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statues and Mayan South American Aztec

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00:39:05,700 --> 00:39:03,160
art there's this huge prominence a

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prominent pointing to the third eye this

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00:39:08,789 --> 00:39:07,750
place that the Hindus called the bindi

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you know and I think we all at this

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00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:10,900
point know what the third eye is Rick

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Strassman is not only a psychologist but

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he is a psychiatrist sorry and fantastic

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00:39:23,819 --> 00:39:21,970
dr. Rick was one of the breakthrough

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people that helped us understand the

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little bit that we do understand about

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00:39:30,269 --> 00:39:28,150
the pineal gland which is the pineal

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gland pituitary and thalamus all taken

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together are this seed of consciousness

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known as the third eye or just known as

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the mind's eye in the West Rick was the

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00:39:43,500 --> 00:39:40,539
last person that was given official

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00:39:46,769 --> 00:39:43,510
permission to test DMT this incredibly

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00:39:48,599 --> 00:39:46,779
strong psychedelic on human subjects and

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00:39:50,430 --> 00:39:48,609
this almost never happens because the

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government you know as soon as LSD came

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out and as soon as empty agents became

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widely recognized the government just

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absolutely clamped down not only can

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people not do these things

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recreationally but science wasn't even

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allowed to explore the effects of DMT on

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the pineal gland and so I brought Rick

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into the show to demonstrate another

809
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:12,130
example of how modern science points to

810
00:40:15,660 --> 00:40:13,690
this thing that the ancients used to

811
00:40:17,849 --> 00:40:15,670
make a really big deal about but the

812
00:40:19,019 --> 00:40:17,859
modern world didn't understand so the

813
00:40:21,299 --> 00:40:19,029
pineal gland is the seat of

814
00:40:23,279 --> 00:40:21,309
consciousness and more particularly what

815
00:40:25,709 --> 00:40:23,289
your brain does when you're on DMT or

816
00:40:28,559 --> 00:40:25,719
hallucinogens it tells us something

817
00:40:30,420 --> 00:40:28,569
really important about consciousness as

818
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:30,430
you know modern science really is one of

819
00:40:33,329 --> 00:40:31,930
the few things we don't understand in

820
00:40:35,339 --> 00:40:33,339
the modern world is what the hell is

821
00:40:36,779 --> 00:40:35,349
that what is consciousness and you know

822
00:40:39,539 --> 00:40:36,789
we still don't really even know what the

823
00:40:40,769 --> 00:40:39,549
pineal gland does except produce this

824
00:40:43,849 --> 00:40:40,779
naturally-occurring

825
00:40:46,769 --> 00:40:43,859
incredibly powerful psychedelic and

826
00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:46,779
people on this psychedelic frequently

827
00:40:50,819 --> 00:40:48,729
report or in fact a common experience in

828
00:40:52,529 --> 00:40:50,829
DMT is that people who do this DMT trip

829
00:40:54,269 --> 00:40:52,539
suddenly are not in your body anymore

830
00:40:56,309 --> 00:40:54,279
your consciousness is disconnected from

831
00:40:59,279 --> 00:40:56,319
your body and you go to these places

832
00:41:02,069 --> 00:40:59,289
that seem to be actually real objective

833
00:41:04,469 --> 00:41:02,079
places that exist somewhere you know not

834
00:41:06,269 --> 00:41:04,479
in our regular space but everyone who's

835
00:41:08,969 --> 00:41:06,279
done DMT and you know the whole 60s

836
00:41:11,339 --> 00:41:08,979
culture it's a fairly common idea that

837
00:41:12,779 --> 00:41:11,349
these infusions disconnect your

838
00:41:15,150 --> 00:41:12,789
consciousness from your body and allow

839
00:41:17,219 --> 00:41:15,160
you to Conte to interact with

840
00:41:21,449 --> 00:41:17,229
intelligences and just these weird

841
00:41:24,299 --> 00:41:21,459
things that genuinely seem to be outside

842
00:41:26,489 --> 00:41:24,309
of us oh another dimension a parallel

843
00:41:28,289 --> 00:41:26,499
world yeah we're a different frequency

844
00:41:29,939 --> 00:41:28,299
like on your television you know your

845
00:41:31,650 --> 00:41:29,949
television doesn't ever change the space

846
00:41:34,349 --> 00:41:31,660
it's in but it changes the frequency

847
00:41:37,769 --> 00:41:34,359
that it tunes into and so what some

848
00:41:39,209 --> 00:41:37,779
people think is that this actually

849
00:41:41,249 --> 00:41:39,219
changes the frequency that your brain

850
00:41:44,459 --> 00:41:41,259
Tunes into which is you know it's a very

851
00:41:45,689 --> 00:41:44,469
exciting thing and the tendency of

852
00:41:48,509 --> 00:41:45,699
modern science is to be very

853
00:41:49,859 --> 00:41:48,519
reductionist and material and they say

854
00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:49,869
that consciousness is sort of just this

855
00:41:54,180 --> 00:41:51,930
byproduct of how complex your brain is

856
00:41:56,729 --> 00:41:54,190
whereas the ancient model and in ancient

857
00:41:58,829 --> 00:41:56,739
Egypt they had literally the inverse

858
00:42:01,019 --> 00:41:58,839
that consciousness is the only thing

859
00:42:04,019 --> 00:42:01,029
that there is and the consciousness and

860
00:42:06,900 --> 00:42:04,029
light slowed down and consolidated form

861
00:42:09,660 --> 00:42:06,910
the basis of everything and it's a huge

862
00:42:11,759 --> 00:42:09,670
contention and it really has much wider

863
00:42:14,670 --> 00:42:11,769
it has theological ramifications it has

864
00:42:18,089 --> 00:42:14,680
psychological ramifications but the

865
00:42:19,890 --> 00:42:18,099
Egyptians in so many ways seem to be way

866
00:42:21,449 --> 00:42:19,900
way ahead of us and only just now as

867
00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:21,459
science is starting to understand the

868
00:42:24,330 --> 00:42:22,570
role of the pineal gland

869
00:42:27,030 --> 00:42:24,340
and what happens in the hallucinogenic

870
00:42:31,650 --> 00:42:27,040
process we are starting to understand

871
00:42:34,410 --> 00:42:31,660
now why Egypt had such a fanaticism for

872
00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:34,420
the third eye area and for this idea of

873
00:42:39,480 --> 00:42:36,970
talking to gods and having spiritual

874
00:42:41,250 --> 00:42:39,490
things and consulting with intelligences

875
00:42:42,750 --> 00:42:41,260
that are much smarter than you and in

876
00:42:48,120 --> 00:42:42,760
some cases intelligences that seem to be

877
00:42:51,240 --> 00:42:48,130
outside of the flow of regular time I'm

878
00:42:53,280 --> 00:42:51,250
gonna jump in real quick the the

879
00:42:58,560 --> 00:42:53,290
presentation that you did on the pineal

880
00:43:01,800 --> 00:42:58,570
gland and magical Egypt - now it's your

881
00:43:04,200 --> 00:43:01,810
fault I cannot help but see the pineal

882
00:43:06,150 --> 00:43:04,210
gland every time I see the eye of rock

883
00:43:08,340 --> 00:43:06,160
which I have all over the studio I'm

884
00:43:10,380 --> 00:43:08,350
holding them up to the cameras right now

885
00:43:12,630 --> 00:43:10,390
some of the stuff that I have around

886
00:43:14,040 --> 00:43:12,640
here and yeah it's the eye of Rod right

887
00:43:16,830 --> 00:43:14,050
but not to me anymore

888
00:43:18,990 --> 00:43:16,840
it's the pineal gland yeah and that's it

889
00:43:21,270 --> 00:43:19,000
and and you're responsible for that it's

890
00:43:24,360 --> 00:43:21,280
an incredible presentation that you that

891
00:43:26,750 --> 00:43:24,370
you do want it do you really you present

892
00:43:30,600 --> 00:43:26,760
a really good case an argument for this

893
00:43:32,400 --> 00:43:30,610
there's so much science in Egypt and

894
00:43:34,380 --> 00:43:32,410
I've always thought it was an extremely

895
00:43:36,480 --> 00:43:34,390
strange thing that something so

896
00:43:38,400 --> 00:43:36,490
important to all of us is so so

897
00:43:40,080 --> 00:43:38,410
important to humanity and such a big

898
00:43:42,390 --> 00:43:40,090
part of our identity as ancient Egypt

899
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:42,400
that the only people who are allowed to

900
00:43:46,740 --> 00:43:44,010
make pronouncements about it are

901
00:43:49,320 --> 00:43:46,750
Orthodox Egyptologists and historians

902
00:43:50,760 --> 00:43:49,330
when in fact it's sort of like finding a

903
00:43:52,380 --> 00:43:50,770
car and they're taking a car to a

904
00:43:55,830 --> 00:43:52,390
veterinarian and asking them what they

905
00:43:57,900 --> 00:43:55,840
think that in a huge way you don't need

906
00:43:59,700 --> 00:43:57,910
each ecologist you need mathematicians

907
00:44:02,880 --> 00:43:59,710
you need engineers you need stone

908
00:44:06,150 --> 00:44:02,890
workers psychologists music acoustic

909
00:44:08,730 --> 00:44:06,160
experts but what I found was I had a

910
00:44:10,380 --> 00:44:08,740
certain core expertise and a certain

911
00:44:12,300 --> 00:44:10,390
amount of you know credibility in my

912
00:44:16,500 --> 00:44:12,310
field I'm coming up on 30 years of doing

913
00:44:18,540 --> 00:44:16,510
what I do and artists it turns out when

914
00:44:20,070 --> 00:44:18,550
artists look at Egypt when scientists

915
00:44:21,720 --> 00:44:20,080
and artists look at Egypt and most

916
00:44:24,330 --> 00:44:21,730
importantly when artists and scientists

917
00:44:27,450 --> 00:44:24,340
team together to look at Egypt the

918
00:44:29,070 --> 00:44:27,460
picture that you see is almost an

919
00:44:30,660 --> 00:44:29,080
entirely different picture than the

920
00:44:32,670 --> 00:44:30,670
picture of Egypt that we learned about

921
00:44:34,260 --> 00:44:32,680
in school it's a much more sophisticated

922
00:44:36,930 --> 00:44:34,270
place and

923
00:44:38,790 --> 00:44:36,940
most important of all is most of what

924
00:44:40,830 --> 00:44:38,800
you hear about ancient Egypt doesn't

925
00:44:42,090 --> 00:44:40,840
pass the silhouette test that what's in

926
00:44:45,330 --> 00:44:42,100
it for me why would I care about this

927
00:44:46,860 --> 00:44:45,340
that most Orthodox Egyptology has to do

928
00:44:48,510 --> 00:44:46,870
with these really abstract things that

929
00:44:50,520 --> 00:44:48,520
have nothing to do with us when you

930
00:44:52,410 --> 00:44:50,530
actually understand the messages that

931
00:44:54,570 --> 00:44:52,420
the temples in the statuary and the

932
00:44:56,070 --> 00:44:54,580
papyri and all the funerary texts would

933
00:44:58,620 --> 00:44:56,080
you actually understand the message of

934
00:45:00,900 --> 00:44:58,630
ancient Egypt it's not religious it's a

935
00:45:02,610 --> 00:45:00,910
scientific message but it happens to be

936
00:45:04,470 --> 00:45:02,620
a scientific message that focuses

937
00:45:06,840 --> 00:45:04,480
specifically on an area of science that

938
00:45:09,930 --> 00:45:06,850
pisses off modern scientists it's a

939
00:45:14,520 --> 00:45:09,940
science of consciousness tell you the

940
00:45:16,650 --> 00:45:14,530
other great part about it is Egyptian

941
00:45:20,190 --> 00:45:16,660
ancient Egyptian art whether its

942
00:45:23,970 --> 00:45:20,200
sarcophagus or wall or sculpt it doesn't

943
00:45:26,160 --> 00:45:23,980
matter it's easy to look at right and so

944
00:45:28,680 --> 00:45:26,170
when you go back to like the roaring 20s

945
00:45:30,630 --> 00:45:28,690
right where Egypt was everywhere in the

946
00:45:34,560 --> 00:45:30,640
United States in the clothes and the

947
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:34,570
furniture and and whatever it was it was

948
00:45:41,850 --> 00:45:37,650
there because it looked cool right and

949
00:45:43,440 --> 00:45:41,860
so that accessibility to every was

950
00:45:44,850 --> 00:45:43,450
pleasing to look at you didn't have to

951
00:45:45,660 --> 00:45:44,860
convince somebody that it was cool

952
00:45:47,790 --> 00:45:45,670
artwork

953
00:45:52,320 --> 00:45:47,800
you've had on one of the most important

954
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:52,330
parts of it and then you got into the

955
00:45:57,420 --> 00:45:54,490
science of it and then you got into the

956
00:46:00,000 --> 00:45:57,430
history and and so forth but you were

957
00:46:02,760 --> 00:46:00,010
drawn to it naturally and didn't know

958
00:46:03,300 --> 00:46:02,770
why as a five-year-old that was drawn to

959
00:46:06,570 --> 00:46:03,310
it

960
00:46:08,790 --> 00:46:06,580
there are aesthetics we use the word

961
00:46:11,100 --> 00:46:08,800
aesthetics aesthetics is the science of

962
00:46:13,920 --> 00:46:11,110
studying the artistic expressions of

963
00:46:17,010 --> 00:46:13,930
previous cultures and so my intreat

964
00:46:19,260 --> 00:46:17,020
imagined to Egypt was as an artist I saw

965
00:46:21,060 --> 00:46:19,270
this art and it is beautiful and I would

966
00:46:23,240 --> 00:46:21,070
make the case that there's never been a

967
00:46:25,470 --> 00:46:23,250
civilization before or since

968
00:46:27,960 --> 00:46:25,480
possibly Salvador Dali but very few

969
00:46:30,630 --> 00:46:27,970
others who really ever came close to the

970
00:46:32,940 --> 00:46:30,640
intensity of the beauty and because it

971
00:46:34,530 --> 00:46:32,950
was my job for so long I worked at a

972
00:46:37,380 --> 00:46:34,540
network I won't say which one it's not

973
00:46:39,720 --> 00:46:37,390
one of the noble ones um I work there

974
00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:39,730
are no noble networks but I work at this

975
00:46:46,350 --> 00:46:44,170
network and I push the limits of art to

976
00:46:48,510 --> 00:46:46,360
the point where if you understand hard

977
00:46:50,670 --> 00:46:48,520
enough and you understand psychology and

978
00:46:53,010 --> 00:46:50,680
geology there are certain colors that

979
00:46:55,410 --> 00:46:53,020
produce actual physiological responses

980
00:46:57,120 --> 00:46:55,420
in us and what's even stranger well the

981
00:47:00,090 --> 00:46:57,130
thing that most people can identify with

982
00:47:03,180 --> 00:47:00,100
is if I go to a piano and I play a third

983
00:47:06,330 --> 00:47:03,190
and a fifth and a seventh the proportion

984
00:47:09,300 --> 00:47:06,340
between those notes is pleasant to us if

985
00:47:10,980 --> 00:47:09,310
I play a fourth and a sixth and that's

986
00:47:12,390 --> 00:47:10,990
something it's off on it makes you

987
00:47:14,400 --> 00:47:12,400
cringe and it makes you want to leave

988
00:47:16,460 --> 00:47:14,410
the room so that's a really quick

989
00:47:19,410 --> 00:47:16,470
example that everyone can relate to

990
00:47:21,210 --> 00:47:19,420
about how relationships proportional

991
00:47:24,360 --> 00:47:21,220
relationships between things are

992
00:47:25,830 --> 00:47:24,370
pleasant or unpleasant so a lot of

993
00:47:28,590 --> 00:47:25,840
people know about the Fibonacci series

994
00:47:29,640 --> 00:47:28,600
and this organic geometry graphic

995
00:47:31,770 --> 00:47:29,650
designers will know about the Fibonacci

996
00:47:33,390 --> 00:47:31,780
series and the golden section because

997
00:47:36,470 --> 00:47:33,400
there seems to be these certain

998
00:47:39,180 --> 00:47:36,480
divisions of space and proportions that

999
00:47:40,710 --> 00:47:39,190
affect our nervous system and we have

1000
00:47:42,840 --> 00:47:40,720
this it's almost like we fall in love

1001
00:47:44,250 --> 00:47:42,850
with it um yeah an example I use a lot

1002
00:47:45,930 --> 00:47:44,260
of you know when you see a baby even if

1003
00:47:48,090 --> 00:47:45,940
you don't like kids if you see a baby or

1004
00:47:50,490 --> 00:47:48,100
if you see a little baby shirt or little

1005
00:47:51,960 --> 00:47:50,500
baby shoes they're just like whoever you

1006
00:47:53,640 --> 00:47:51,970
are they're just adorable you have to

1007
00:47:55,230 --> 00:47:53,650
stop for a minute go my god how adorable

1008
00:47:57,780 --> 00:47:55,240
is that right and there's something

1009
00:47:59,400 --> 00:47:57,790
we're hardwired to that the proportion

1010
00:48:01,950 --> 00:47:59,410
of the eyes and the size of the head to

1011
00:48:04,020 --> 00:48:01,960
the body which is part of the reason why

1012
00:48:05,580 --> 00:48:04,030
that whole gray aliens thing is so

1013
00:48:07,260 --> 00:48:05,590
sticky in our psyche because they have

1014
00:48:09,560 --> 00:48:07,270
that proportion that babies have bigger

1015
00:48:12,900 --> 00:48:09,570
head and little or body and we're

1016
00:48:14,910 --> 00:48:12,910
literally wired to respond to that with

1017
00:48:16,470 --> 00:48:14,920
emotion like falling in love love at

1018
00:48:19,260 --> 00:48:16,480
first sight is a huge example of this

1019
00:48:22,140 --> 00:48:19,270
that nobody can explain why we respond

1020
00:48:24,030 --> 00:48:22,150
the way we do as the magical Egypt

1021
00:48:27,180 --> 00:48:24,040
project continued and as we started

1022
00:48:31,920 --> 00:48:27,190
understanding the real role of art in

1023
00:48:33,630 --> 00:48:31,930
the past it was used to transmit this

1024
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:33,640
information but the information was

1025
00:48:38,570 --> 00:48:36,490
couched in beauty and it's like putting

1026
00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:38,580
a spoonful of sugar and aspirin or

1027
00:48:45,180 --> 00:48:41,170
mixing vodka with grape juice or

1028
00:48:48,060 --> 00:48:45,190
something it's this intensely dense

1029
00:48:50,610 --> 00:48:48,070
technical information but it's relayed

1030
00:48:53,760 --> 00:48:50,620
through this medium that is pure beauty

1031
00:48:56,070 --> 00:48:53,770
and not only is it just pleasant to look

1032
00:48:57,780 --> 00:48:56,080
at but the way our brain is structured

1033
00:49:00,529 --> 00:48:57,790
and the way we store information and the

1034
00:49:04,710 --> 00:49:00,539
way we process information

1035
00:49:06,390 --> 00:49:04,720
Egypt was perfectly it was one of those

1036
00:49:08,039 --> 00:49:06,400
examples of technology that's gotten so

1037
00:49:09,990 --> 00:49:08,049
far that it doesn't seem like technology

1038
00:49:13,170 --> 00:49:10,000
it seems like magic that they understood

1039
00:49:14,819 --> 00:49:13,180
art and the psyche so well that the

1040
00:49:17,099 --> 00:49:14,829
language they used was a visual language

1041
00:49:18,930 --> 00:49:17,109
of hieroglyphs but also part of their

1042
00:49:20,730 --> 00:49:18,940
language was symbolism which is a very

1043
00:49:22,650 --> 00:49:20,740
right-brain thing it's all about

1044
00:49:24,779 --> 00:49:22,660
analogies and connection and if I show

1045
00:49:27,960 --> 00:49:24,789
you a bird it means flight and it means

1046
00:49:30,210 --> 00:49:27,970
the volatile and so because of our right

1047
00:49:32,970 --> 00:49:30,220
brain and this dense web of associations

1048
00:49:35,309 --> 00:49:32,980
and meanings we have Egypt can transmit

1049
00:49:38,339 --> 00:49:35,319
this science through the medium of art

1050
00:49:40,309 --> 00:49:38,349
and as I said this is the most important

1051
00:49:42,750 --> 00:49:40,319
branch of science and it's the most

1052
00:49:46,079 --> 00:49:42,760
underdeveloped in the modern world this

1053
00:49:47,819 --> 00:49:46,089
science that explains why we think of

1054
00:49:50,010 --> 00:49:47,829
ourselves as individuals why am I only

1055
00:49:51,000 --> 00:49:50,020
seeing out of my eyes why do I only hear

1056
00:49:52,859 --> 00:49:51,010
my own thoughts

1057
00:49:54,359 --> 00:49:52,869
is their consciousness outside of us

1058
00:49:57,299 --> 00:49:54,369
that we can tap into which is what the

1059
00:50:00,480 --> 00:49:57,309
whole psychedelic conversation raises

1060
00:50:02,970 --> 00:50:00,490
and so as we've uncovered more and more

1061
00:50:05,579 --> 00:50:02,980
of Egypt what we'd realized is that this

1062
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:05,589
isn't proto religion this is like a

1063
00:50:10,769 --> 00:50:08,410
magic mirror that holds itself up to you

1064
00:50:12,299 --> 00:50:10,779
and shows you the parts of yourself that

1065
00:50:14,160 --> 00:50:12,309
are the most important first of all and

1066
00:50:16,740 --> 00:50:14,170
things you can't see what's the

1067
00:50:18,240 --> 00:50:16,750
structure of your psyche structure of

1068
00:50:19,980 --> 00:50:18,250
the psyche seems to very much parallel

1069
00:50:22,500 --> 00:50:19,990
the physical structure of the brain so

1070
00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:22,510
when you see things like the temple

1071
00:50:27,359 --> 00:50:25,390
pylon that shows you where the the

1072
00:50:29,370 --> 00:50:27,369
Egyptian pylon acts like a template

1073
00:50:30,720 --> 00:50:29,380
where if you hold that in your mind hold

1074
00:50:32,069 --> 00:50:30,730
the picture of the temple or if you can

1075
00:50:34,470 --> 00:50:32,079
do it on computer you take an outline of

1076
00:50:36,120 --> 00:50:34,480
the pylon put it directly over the human

1077
00:50:38,220 --> 00:50:36,130
brain and you'll find that all the

1078
00:50:40,019 --> 00:50:38,230
articulations of the architecture show

1079
00:50:42,690 --> 00:50:40,029
you exactly where the important parts of

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00:50:44,490 --> 00:50:42,700
the brain are and that most iconic thing

1081
00:50:47,670 --> 00:50:44,500
in Egyptian architecture that beautiful

1082
00:50:49,950 --> 00:50:47,680
door the big door with the fluted top

1083
00:50:52,740 --> 00:50:49,960
and the wing and disk the winged disk

1084
00:50:54,569 --> 00:50:52,750
lands exactly at the place of the third

1085
00:50:57,059 --> 00:50:54,579
eye the pineal pituitary and thalamus

1086
00:50:59,190 --> 00:50:57,069
and the wing of disk itself is this kind

1087
00:51:00,480 --> 00:50:59,200
of instruction about unified you know

1088
00:51:02,670 --> 00:51:00,490
the two wings represent the two

1089
00:51:04,589 --> 00:51:02,680
hemispheres of the brain in this case

1090
00:51:06,000 --> 00:51:04,599
and then the center Suns symbol you know

1091
00:51:06,840 --> 00:51:06,010
what I'm talking about the wing it yes

1092
00:51:10,110 --> 00:51:06,850
absolutely

1093
00:51:12,780 --> 00:51:10,120
that is itself not only a symbol but a

1094
00:51:15,480 --> 00:51:12,790
schematic and instruction about how to

1095
00:51:17,100 --> 00:51:15,490
achieve this state of consciousness that

1096
00:51:18,270 --> 00:51:17,110
is expressed everywhere in Egypt you

1097
00:51:20,700 --> 00:51:18,280
know how often people when they see

1098
00:51:22,380 --> 00:51:20,710
Egypt when John West was on Joe Rogan

1099
00:51:24,240 --> 00:51:22,390
the first question Joe Rogan asked John

1100
00:51:26,610 --> 00:51:24,250
was how are they so smart why were they

1101
00:51:29,670 --> 00:51:26,620
so smart and it turns out they left a

1102
00:51:31,830 --> 00:51:29,680
road map in the art telling us how to

1103
00:51:33,510 --> 00:51:31,840
achieve this state of consciousness and

1104
00:51:35,190 --> 00:51:33,520
because it's been so misunderstood and

1105
00:51:40,770 --> 00:51:35,200
misrepresented and you know there's a

1106
00:51:42,390 --> 00:51:40,780
lot of money and a and so it we've never

1107
00:51:44,010 --> 00:51:42,400
did get the truth about that and it's

1108
00:51:46,980 --> 00:51:44,020
it's operative it's something we can use

1109
00:51:48,810 --> 00:51:46,990
it's not just a theoretical idea that's

1110
00:51:50,670 --> 00:51:48,820
okay because when we talk about the

1111
00:51:52,770 --> 00:51:50,680
science of it and some of the

1112
00:51:55,500 --> 00:51:52,780
revelations coming out of Giza right now

1113
00:51:59,040 --> 00:51:55,510
you've got Chris Dunn on Thursday and

1114
00:52:03,510 --> 00:51:59,050
and Chris's approach to the Great

1115
00:52:06,090 --> 00:52:03,520
Pyramid seemed revolutionary and almost

1116
00:52:08,700 --> 00:52:06,100
too far outside of the box now science

1117
00:52:11,250 --> 00:52:08,710
is coming right behind Chris and papi

1118
00:52:14,640 --> 00:52:11,260
propping him up and you've got him on

1119
00:52:16,800 --> 00:52:14,650
Thursday chris is amazing I just locked

1120
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:16,810
in with him this week figuring out what

1121
00:52:22,470 --> 00:52:19,450
to talk about and so first of all is it

1122
00:52:25,380 --> 00:52:22,480
said Christopher Dunn is most widely

1123
00:52:27,360 --> 00:52:25,390
known for his idea that the pyramid is

1124
00:52:30,360 --> 00:52:27,370
actually a massive electrical power

1125
00:52:31,800 --> 00:52:30,370
plant there are a number of engineers

1126
00:52:33,360 --> 00:52:31,810
and just you know weird

1127
00:52:34,710 --> 00:52:33,370
brainiacs that I know here that are

1128
00:52:37,320 --> 00:52:34,720
fascinated with him because it actually

1129
00:52:40,800 --> 00:52:37,330
works this thing that he proposed the

1130
00:52:42,810 --> 00:52:40,810
pyramid because of its location over the

1131
00:52:46,740 --> 00:52:42,820
aquifers and the tides creates this

1132
00:52:48,570 --> 00:52:46,750
ambient electricity and literally very

1133
00:52:50,250 --> 00:52:48,580
similar to the power plant that Nikola

1134
00:52:51,720 --> 00:52:50,260
Tesla tried to build or he was in the

1135
00:52:54,570 --> 00:52:51,730
process of building I think when he died

1136
00:52:56,160 --> 00:52:54,580
also over the top of a coastline where

1137
00:52:58,950 --> 00:52:56,170
water would come in and go and take

1138
00:53:02,010 --> 00:52:58,960
advantage of that natural electricity

1139
00:53:03,660 --> 00:53:02,020
but Christopher Dunn I really hit it off

1140
00:53:05,460 --> 00:53:03,670
with him first of all because he and I

1141
00:53:08,040 --> 00:53:05,470
have so many similarities he's a

1142
00:53:10,170 --> 00:53:08,050
machinist and an engineer and so he

1143
00:53:11,700 --> 00:53:10,180
works through the computer in an

1144
00:53:13,860 --> 00:53:11,710
interface it's very much like mine with

1145
00:53:17,430 --> 00:53:13,870
you're a computer animator you work with

1146
00:53:19,860 --> 00:53:17,440
top view side view well do accesses

1147
00:53:22,590 --> 00:53:19,870
x-axis y-axis and z-axis

1148
00:53:24,360 --> 00:53:22,600
Kristopher in addition to this great

1149
00:53:26,340 --> 00:53:24,370
pyramid theory which was his first

1150
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:26,350
offering I've found the stuff he's done

1151
00:53:31,740 --> 00:53:28,570
later is is every bit as important if

1152
00:53:33,750 --> 00:53:31,750
not more so that he's really speaking my

1153
00:53:38,420 --> 00:53:33,760
language now because his new book which

1154
00:53:42,240 --> 00:53:38,430
is right now available is all about this

1155
00:53:45,030 --> 00:53:42,250
analysis of the statuary and the

1156
00:53:46,890 --> 00:53:45,040
stonework I come to this you know full

1157
00:53:48,270 --> 00:53:46,900
of symbols and speaking the language of

1158
00:53:50,160 --> 00:53:48,280
art I've never

1159
00:53:51,630 --> 00:53:50,170
I barely know how to use a hammer I'm

1160
00:53:53,700 --> 00:53:51,640
not much of a machinist I don't know

1161
00:53:55,320 --> 00:53:53,710
things like that but Christopher is one

1162
00:53:57,030 --> 00:53:55,330
of those guys and actually has to take a

1163
00:53:59,280 --> 00:53:57,040
block of stone and cut it down into

1164
00:54:00,990 --> 00:53:59,290
shapes he does metalworking in stone and

1165
00:54:03,210 --> 00:54:01,000
so he has this extremely pragmatic

1166
00:54:06,660 --> 00:54:03,220
knowledge of what's necessary to

1167
00:54:08,360 --> 00:54:06,670
accomplish some of the statuary in Egypt

1168
00:54:10,920 --> 00:54:08,370
and one of the things that impressed me

1169
00:54:13,010 --> 00:54:10,930
just he perfectly proved this is the

1170
00:54:16,260 --> 00:54:13,020
essence of good science by the way

1171
00:54:18,180 --> 00:54:16,270
everybody in Orthodox Egyptology will

1172
00:54:19,830 --> 00:54:18,190
continue to insist that the tools that

1173
00:54:24,150 --> 00:54:19,840
Egypt had available to them were these

1174
00:54:25,440 --> 00:54:24,160
stone balls and copper chisels and you

1175
00:54:27,690 --> 00:54:25,450
know people say they didn't even they

1176
00:54:31,230 --> 00:54:27,700
hadn't even invented the wheel yet but

1177
00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:31,240
Christopher Dunn shows in one example

1178
00:54:35,820 --> 00:54:33,370
there's a statue this the statue of

1179
00:54:36,780 --> 00:54:35,830
Ramses in Luxor there's statues of them

1180
00:54:41,550 --> 00:54:36,790
all over they're massive they're

1181
00:54:42,630 --> 00:54:41,560
absolutely gigantic they are I had an

1182
00:54:44,640 --> 00:54:42,640
appreciation for this because I've tried

1183
00:54:45,720 --> 00:54:44,650
to do this myself when you want to scan

1184
00:54:47,070 --> 00:54:45,730
something here you want to create

1185
00:54:48,900 --> 00:54:47,080
something on a computer you have to take

1186
00:54:50,370 --> 00:54:48,910
a very special kind of photograph called

1187
00:54:52,680 --> 00:54:50,380
an isometric photograph or an

1188
00:54:55,290 --> 00:54:52,690
orthographic photograph that removes all

1189
00:54:56,790 --> 00:54:55,300
of the depth of field and all the

1190
00:54:58,800 --> 00:54:56,800
vanishing points and it's just this flat

1191
00:55:00,840 --> 00:54:58,810
accurate picture of the outline of

1192
00:55:03,690 --> 00:55:00,850
something so he took all of these

1193
00:55:05,010 --> 00:55:03,700
engineering photographs of the statuary

1194
00:55:06,690 --> 00:55:05,020
and he put them in the computer for

1195
00:55:09,090 --> 00:55:06,700
analysis and he was just trying to

1196
00:55:10,890 --> 00:55:09,100
figure out what tools were used or it

1197
00:55:13,260 --> 00:55:10,900
was this possible if you carve things by

1198
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:13,270
hand and what he found was if you take a

1199
00:55:18,240 --> 00:55:16,210
mirror and hold it down the central axis

1200
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:18,250
of the statue the left side of the

1201
00:55:24,690 --> 00:55:21,330
statue matched the right side exactly

1202
00:55:28,470 --> 00:55:24,700
exactly the cheeks the eyebrows the eyes

1203
00:55:31,890 --> 00:55:28,480
the nose the lips the chin his

1204
00:55:32,710 --> 00:55:31,900
presentation on that is is a game

1205
00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:32,720
changer

1206
00:55:40,720 --> 00:55:37,940
itself peels away one of those layers of

1207
00:55:41,980 --> 00:55:40,730
smugness from Egyptology that absolutely

1208
00:55:43,630 --> 00:55:41,990
doesn't make sense it's one of the most

1209
00:55:44,860 --> 00:55:43,640
ridiculous things in Egyptology that

1210
00:55:50,050 --> 00:55:44,870
these people accomplished all of that

1211
00:55:54,610 --> 00:55:50,060
only with stone chisels red granite and

1212
00:55:59,200 --> 00:55:54,620
his his his presentation on that of the

1213
00:56:02,440 --> 00:55:59,210
of the arcs the arches the the spheres

1214
00:56:05,710 --> 00:56:02,450
and how it had to be it wasn't somebody

1215
00:56:08,520 --> 00:56:05,720
diss attacking that with with the stone

1216
00:56:12,310 --> 00:56:08,530
hammer going okay I'm gonna create this

1217
00:56:13,210 --> 00:56:12,320
that is clearly not the case and he said

1218
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:13,220
an interesting thing that I've never

1219
00:56:16,120 --> 00:56:14,810
really talked about another thing about

1220
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:16,130
engineering is that you have different

1221
00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:17,690
tolerances Christopher is all about

1222
00:56:21,550 --> 00:56:19,850
precision that's right and you have

1223
00:56:22,780 --> 00:56:21,560
different tolerances so if you're making

1224
00:56:25,240 --> 00:56:22,790
a scarecrow

1225
00:56:27,280 --> 00:56:25,250
you don't need millimeter precision on

1226
00:56:29,350 --> 00:56:27,290
this scarecrow if you're making a work

1227
00:56:31,030 --> 00:56:29,360
of art it doesn't matter that these

1228
00:56:33,720 --> 00:56:31,040
things are symmetrical and in fact most

1229
00:56:37,480 --> 00:56:33,730
organic things aren't symmetrical but

1230
00:56:38,560 --> 00:56:37,490
these statues don't have well according

1231
00:56:40,390 --> 00:56:38,570
to our understanding of what these

1232
00:56:42,940 --> 00:56:40,400
statues were for they don't have to be

1233
00:56:45,370 --> 00:56:42,950
perfect like this but they are built to

1234
00:56:47,170 --> 00:56:45,380
this precision that is damn near

1235
00:56:49,900 --> 00:56:47,180
impossible with the height of Technology

1236
00:56:51,310 --> 00:56:49,910
right now Robert Bauval talks a lot

1237
00:56:53,440 --> 00:56:51,320
about the size of the stones and how

1238
00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,450
modern-day cranes literally would have

1239
00:56:56,890 --> 00:56:55,520
trouble lifting much less you know

1240
00:56:59,320 --> 00:56:56,900
accurately placing these stones

1241
00:57:01,570 --> 00:56:59,330
Christopher's so hands-on he's all about

1242
00:57:04,030 --> 00:57:01,580
the actual machining and how do you get

1243
00:57:05,890 --> 00:57:04,040
a stone to do this um he says in his

1244
00:57:07,690 --> 00:57:05,900
book he spent his life running his hands

1245
00:57:09,340 --> 00:57:07,700
over surfaces to check for perfections

1246
00:57:10,960 --> 00:57:09,350
and and very much like that whole

1247
00:57:12,580 --> 00:57:10,970
interesting conversation about the

1248
00:57:14,560 --> 00:57:12,590
crystal skulls when you look

1249
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:14,570
microscopically at these surfaces there

1250
00:57:19,930 --> 00:57:17,690
are no chisel marks this looks like it

1251
00:57:21,910 --> 00:57:19,940
was machine made although you know

1252
00:57:23,470 --> 00:57:21,920
nobody's ever found any machines so it

1253
00:57:25,690 --> 00:57:23,480
must be some kind of technology we don't

1254
00:57:27,370 --> 00:57:25,700
understand but that's just absolutely

1255
00:57:29,350 --> 00:57:27,380
fascinating to me and it is literally

1256
00:57:31,660 --> 00:57:29,360
the essence in the heart of what magical

1257
00:57:33,850 --> 00:57:31,670
Egypt is trying to do is reclaim this

1258
00:57:36,820 --> 00:57:33,860
subject that belongs to all of us out of

1259
00:57:40,060 --> 00:57:36,830
a you know clutching hands of this one

1260
00:57:42,070 --> 00:57:40,070
obscure brand you know subscrive lee

1261
00:57:44,080 --> 00:57:42,080
insular branch of the humanities that

1262
00:57:46,030 --> 00:57:44,090
are telling everyone else no you can't

1263
00:57:48,040 --> 00:57:46,040
have a say in what this is

1264
00:57:49,750 --> 00:57:48,050
it's a it's all a surreal it's like a

1265
00:57:52,810 --> 00:57:49,760
little boy taking his basketball home so

1266
00:57:54,340 --> 00:57:52,820
no one else can play and I saw John West

1267
00:57:56,920 --> 00:57:54,350
this man that I loved and who was Mike

1268
00:57:59,320 --> 00:57:56,930
you know in many ways my mentor and

1269
00:58:01,180 --> 00:57:59,330
father he spent his whole life banging

1270
00:58:03,610 --> 00:58:01,190
his head against this wall he genuinely

1271
00:58:05,350 --> 00:58:03,620
thought one day Egyptology would say

1272
00:58:07,780 --> 00:58:05,360
you're right we're wrong everything we

1273
00:58:08,290 --> 00:58:07,790
said was wrong it's never going to

1274
00:58:10,270 --> 00:58:08,300
happen

1275
00:58:13,210 --> 00:58:10,280
so it occurred to me that if we change

1276
00:58:16,690 --> 00:58:13,220
the venue change the arena of combat

1277
00:58:18,370 --> 00:58:16,700
take it away from the historical

1278
00:58:19,750 --> 00:58:18,380
perspective and let's look at it through

1279
00:58:22,540 --> 00:58:19,760
the eyes of art let's look at it through

1280
00:58:24,460 --> 00:58:22,550
the eyes of science and it's a different

1281
00:58:26,860 --> 00:58:24,470
place than we were told and in

1282
00:58:28,420 --> 00:58:26,870
specifically the most exciting way that

1283
00:58:30,760 --> 00:58:28,430
there's something there for us this is a

1284
00:58:32,650 --> 00:58:30,770
birthright for us and it tells you

1285
00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:32,660
something about yourself that I bet you

1286
00:58:38,170 --> 00:58:36,410
didn't know there's that question what

1287
00:58:40,600 --> 00:58:38,180
are we here for right and when we come

1288
00:58:44,710 --> 00:58:40,610
back I want to talk about ed Nightingale

1289
00:58:46,870 --> 00:58:44,720
and yeah and I've had some of the most

1290
00:58:50,230 --> 00:58:46,880
amazing guests on this show to talk

1291
00:58:54,490 --> 00:58:50,240
about Egypt Edie was one of those

1292
00:58:57,670 --> 00:58:54,500
conversations that absolutely changed my

1293
00:58:59,050 --> 00:58:57,680
paradigm my worldview absolutely

1294
00:59:01,000 --> 00:58:59,060
incredible one of the most humble guys

1295
00:59:03,580 --> 00:59:01,010
out there too as well we'll discuss that

1296
00:59:05,530 --> 00:59:03,590
because we already touched upon the

1297
00:59:06,730 --> 00:59:05,540
Fibonacci sequence well that's what

1298
00:59:10,150 --> 00:59:06,740
we're gonna do next we're gonna talk

1299
00:59:12,190 --> 00:59:10,160
about ed Nightingale the magical Egypt

1300
00:59:14,890 --> 00:59:12,200
symposium is going on right now we put

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you can go and do that you can also go

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chance Gardner I'll be right back after

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all right welcome back fade to black I

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am your host Amy Church I guess tonight

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but what an only chance gardener is here

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it's got the most amazing symposium

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the links up for its in twitter and also

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over at a jimmy church radio calm now

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chance this is before we get to ed

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Nightingale you and I will be doing our

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thing tomorrow and there I just receipt

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I can't talk about it

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I can allude to it but I have to wait

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until the paper is published but I was

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sent the paper in advance but it in this

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in this white paper there and now

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appears to be eight additional chambers

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inside of the Great Pyramid now holy

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crap now now now I I can't I can't jump

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ahead and and and get to specifics here

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01:05:11,260 --> 01:05:07,850
but we do have the new chamber that you

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know has that has been talked about in

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released we know about that and this is

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this is one of the things that blows my

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mind that the other two pyramids there

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and you know Makara those Egyptologists

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want us to believe that there's nothing

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inside of them yeah okay I call BS there

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there is absolutely no way that those

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are just solid just stop with that but

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when we look at the Great Pyramid this

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is what I am struck with and I'm going

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to take this further tomorrow with you

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is not not old not ten thousand years

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old I'm talking about immortal right

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that I just think that it is so

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phenomenally old and the reason why I

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come to this conclusion is that when we

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look across the Nile at Cairo

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which has been leveled over time

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repeatedly with earthquakes and

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weathering is a that that is what but

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yet the pyramid is is is they're

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unchanged but also look at Rome Rome

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Rome at Rome before it was a city at 400

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BC was mud huts and you can see the

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degradation over time with with Rome

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look at Greece look at any other

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megalithic site around the world safe

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for gobekli tepe

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and that was deliberately buried but

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everything else has degraded degraded

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simple and and even the pyramids around

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the Great Pyramid all of the other sites

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around ancient Egypt everything has

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degraded over time not the Great Pyramid

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and I need I need clarification on that

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and and Egyptology is not going to give

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that to me I see something that is is

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immortal I can't think of another word

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but something so majestic that has

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absolutely sat there unchanged forever

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Laird's you know Laird's wife Risa one

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time when I was at Larry's place in New

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York she said this thing and she said it

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I don't know if she was joking or not

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but it just a manic never left my head

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she said the only thing that would

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really explain the Great Pyramid is time

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travel that at some moment in the future

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maybe the last moment before humanity

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you know that killed somehow we all came

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back in time to a place before you know

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human habitation and we built this thing

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01:08:07,329 --> 01:08:04,609
it's almost impossible to explain unless

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it's always been there the dinosaurs

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built it I don't I'm totally with Reese

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on that I'm totally with her you I see

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something that is ageless yeah that's it

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that's there I don't when somebody comes

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up and some educated

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you know somebody that has got letters

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after their name and they want to tell

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me well you know you know it's all you

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know 2600 BC and you know it's no dude

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you do not know or do that yet you don't

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know don't tell me that you know because

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you don't there's nothing that you could

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give to me as evidence of dating of the

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Great Pyramid or or of the Sphinx or

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anything else I

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I'm sorry about that you weren't out

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there you weren't and and you look at

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when you look at the family's pyramids

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along the side of the Great Pyramid

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you know Khufu Khafre whatever you want

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01:09:17,419 --> 01:09:14,279
to say whoever's in there wife son

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daughter aunt great-uncle whatever those

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01:09:24,950 --> 01:09:22,440
things are crumbling piles of stone and

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and that was them trying to replicate

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what was there that's that's it and it

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didn't stand that those didn't stand the

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test of time right so right you just

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that's it that's that's where I met I'm

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gonna go further with this tomorrow with

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01:09:45,169 --> 01:09:42,210
everybody but that's that I see

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01:09:46,849 --> 01:09:45,179
immortality it is one of the most

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01:09:48,919 --> 01:09:46,859
interesting things in the world and uh

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01:09:51,379 --> 01:09:48,929
anybody who's been to Egypt when you

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01:09:52,970 --> 01:09:51,389
stand face to face and look at those

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01:09:57,500 --> 01:09:52,980
stones you put your hands on those

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01:09:59,209 --> 01:09:57,510
stones those things are geological those

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01:10:01,459 --> 01:09:59,219
are old in geological terms not

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01:10:03,500 --> 01:10:01,469
sociological terms that the ruins there

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01:10:05,359 --> 01:10:03,510
and the most crazy thing that nobody

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01:10:07,189 --> 01:10:05,369
acknowledges but that if you go there

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01:10:09,200 --> 01:10:07,199
and if you spend time there the oldest

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01:10:12,169 --> 01:10:09,210
things from the first dynasty of ancient

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01:10:14,419 --> 01:10:12,179
Egypt were built over the top of things

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that were incredibly old when they were

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and speaking you know gobekli tepe has

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been sort of on cotton balls and so it

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01:10:24,530 --> 01:10:21,480
preserved really well these things were

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so old and so exposed seemingly

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01:10:28,910 --> 01:10:26,340
thousands maybe tens of thousands of

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01:10:30,800 --> 01:10:28,920
years before the Egyptians rebuilt

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01:10:34,609 --> 01:10:30,810
you know the exploded pyramid and the

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01:10:37,189 --> 01:10:34,619
red pyramid less famous pyramids picked

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01:10:38,770 --> 01:10:37,199
up really cool ones they're built over

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:38,780
the top of things that were already

1527
01:10:42,740 --> 01:10:40,650
incredibly old ruins

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01:10:44,870 --> 01:10:42,750
and the valley temple as well if people

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01:10:47,720 --> 01:10:44,880
have been to the Sphinx there's this two

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01:10:49,520 --> 01:10:47,730
places in Egypt that have architecture

1531
01:10:51,500 --> 01:10:49,530
that's like Stonehenge it's nothing like

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01:10:54,500 --> 01:10:51,510
Egyptian architecture one is the Osirian

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01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:54,510
in Abydos and one is the valley temple

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01:10:57,530 --> 01:10:55,890
that's right next to the Sphinx so

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01:11:00,350 --> 01:10:57,540
everybody goes in and sees this thing

1536
01:11:01,820 --> 01:11:00,360
and there are places on the John West

1537
01:11:02,930 --> 01:11:01,830
tour I believe you've been on the John

1538
01:11:04,490 --> 01:11:02,940
West tour as well you probably remember

1539
01:11:07,220 --> 01:11:04,500
this when he takes you to a corner and

1540
01:11:09,620 --> 01:11:07,230
he shows you this stonework which is

1541
01:11:10,910 --> 01:11:09,630
beautiful red granite stone and it

1542
01:11:14,090 --> 01:11:10,920
doesn't come to a corner it's actually

1543
01:11:17,060 --> 01:11:14,100
curved you know it's it's curved which

1544
01:11:18,290 --> 01:11:17,070
is just how would you even do that the

1545
01:11:19,970 --> 01:11:18,300
inside of a room doesn't have sharp

1546
01:11:22,669 --> 01:11:19,980
corners it has curved corners and this

1547
01:11:25,160 --> 01:11:22,679
stone living stone actually bends but

1548
01:11:27,800 --> 01:11:25,170
the point I'm getting to is that there's

1549
01:11:29,419 --> 01:11:27,810
parts where this I call it modern it's

1550
01:11:31,610 --> 01:11:29,429
relatively modern it's old to us but

1551
01:11:33,860 --> 01:11:31,620
this thing was built over something else

1552
01:11:36,140 --> 01:11:33,870
and when the stone falls away you can

1553
01:11:38,209 --> 01:11:36,150
see the crumbled remains of the stuff

1554
01:11:40,189 --> 01:11:38,219
that was there underneath it the same as

1555
01:11:43,520 --> 01:11:40,199
the true with some of the pyramids and

1556
01:11:46,729 --> 01:11:43,530
in fact that thing that massive flat

1557
01:11:48,200 --> 01:11:46,739
area that is like Cape Canaveral I mean

1558
01:11:51,320 --> 01:11:48,210
it's that big it's like a launch pad

1559
01:11:53,120 --> 01:11:51,330
rocket launch pad perfectly flat giant

1560
01:11:54,080 --> 01:11:53,130
but if the pyramid weren't even there I

1561
01:11:57,470 --> 01:11:54,090
think we've talked about this before

1562
01:11:59,600 --> 01:11:57,480
just the flat engineering of the stone

1563
01:12:01,060 --> 01:11:59,610
that the Pyramid sets on which clearly

1564
01:12:03,110 --> 01:12:01,070
had to be there being before the pyramid

1565
01:12:04,850 --> 01:12:03,120
that's a massive but it's an engineering

1566
01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:04,860
feat no one can explain so you're

1567
01:12:08,330 --> 01:12:06,449
absolutely correct and it's one of the

1568
01:12:10,010 --> 01:12:08,340
first mysteries that jumps out are the

1569
01:12:12,770 --> 01:12:10,020
first riddles that jumps out at you when

1570
01:12:15,110 --> 01:12:12,780
you go to ancient Egypt that clearly

1571
01:12:17,360 --> 01:12:15,120
this place is so old that there's no

1572
01:12:19,310 --> 01:12:17,370
explanation for it and then suddenly you

1573
01:12:22,610 --> 01:12:19,320
start bumping up against all the social

1574
01:12:24,410 --> 01:12:22,620
engineers and people that have seen some

1575
01:12:25,780 --> 01:12:24,420
kind of weird vested interest in us not

1576
01:12:28,669 --> 01:12:25,790
knowing about our past

1577
01:12:31,250 --> 01:12:28,679
it's an unusual branch of science

1578
01:12:33,530 --> 01:12:31,260
because very few branches of science

1579
01:12:37,490 --> 01:12:33,540
there's such active subterfuge you know

1580
01:12:39,350 --> 01:12:37,500
I often talk about Isaac Newton said

1581
01:12:41,450 --> 01:12:39,360
I've got where I am by standing on the

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01:12:43,220 --> 01:12:41,460
shoulders of giants and so much we know

1583
01:12:44,630 --> 01:12:43,230
about Egypt came to us by standing on

1584
01:12:47,540 --> 01:12:44,640
the shoulders of idiots that were just

1585
01:12:49,550 --> 01:12:47,550
completely wrong right right right right

1586
01:12:51,020 --> 01:12:49,560
you have to unlearn what you know and

1587
01:12:52,670 --> 01:12:51,030
then go to Egypt and then it'll start

1588
01:12:55,130 --> 01:12:52,680
speaking to you we

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01:12:57,530 --> 01:12:55,140
we can talk about the two and a half

1590
01:13:00,710 --> 01:12:57,540
million blocks we could talk about how

1591
01:13:03,620 --> 01:13:00,720
they did it and and and be fascinated

1592
01:13:06,710 --> 01:13:03,630
with that conversation but it doesn't me

1593
01:13:09,050 --> 01:13:06,720
actually even start there for me you're

1594
01:13:11,480 --> 01:13:09,060
you you touched upon one of the most

1595
01:13:16,130 --> 01:13:11,490
important aspects of the Great Pyramid

1596
01:13:19,010 --> 01:13:16,140
that is 13 acres of perfectly leveled

1597
01:13:23,360 --> 01:13:19,020
stone work was done before the the

1598
01:13:27,170 --> 01:13:23,370
construction of the pyramid 13 acres and

1599
01:13:30,230 --> 01:13:27,180
those stones that the pyramid is built

1600
01:13:34,250 --> 01:13:30,240
on each one of those stones weighs more

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01:13:37,670 --> 01:13:34,260
than a car and they leveled out and pret

1602
01:13:40,790 --> 01:13:37,680
that surface leveled it and pointed it

1603
01:13:43,610 --> 01:13:40,800
directly to true north before they ever

1604
01:13:46,760 --> 01:13:43,620
started building the pyramid that that

1605
01:13:51,200 --> 01:13:46,770
is a mind-blowing concept you need to

1606
01:13:51,560 --> 01:13:51,210
start there and I I don't know how they

1607
01:13:53,450 --> 01:13:51,570
did it

1608
01:13:57,440 --> 01:13:53,460
and that's why you know this is the

1609
01:14:00,230 --> 01:13:57,450
thing to chance it we really really need

1610
01:14:02,560 --> 01:14:00,240
to sit down and stress this with all of

1611
01:14:07,130 --> 01:14:02,570
the Egyptologists that are trying to

1612
01:14:09,470 --> 01:14:07,140
force this issue down our throats if you

1613
01:14:14,020 --> 01:14:09,480
want to sit and tell me that this was

1614
01:14:18,380 --> 01:14:14,030
done at 3000 BC or 2650 or 2700 BC when

1615
01:14:21,020 --> 01:14:18,390
nobody had the knowledge of leveling and

1616
01:14:24,050 --> 01:14:21,030
engineering and architecture and and

1617
01:14:26,450 --> 01:14:24,060
they didn't have a CAD computer system

1618
01:14:27,260 --> 01:14:26,460
they didn't have anything like this they

1619
01:14:30,700 --> 01:14:27,270
know lasers

1620
01:14:34,700 --> 01:14:30,710
another thing you know maybe a square

1621
01:14:37,460 --> 01:14:34,710
maybe some type of rudimentary leveling

1622
01:14:40,310 --> 01:14:37,470
device maybe but the rest of the world

1623
01:14:43,790 --> 01:14:40,320
did not and they did not have the

1624
01:14:47,570 --> 01:14:43,800
technology to level 13 acres and like

1625
01:14:49,670 --> 01:14:47,580
and know why they had to do it that's

1626
01:14:52,640 --> 01:14:49,680
because the knowledge was already there

1627
01:14:55,430 --> 01:14:52,650
and it was it was it was done long

1628
01:14:58,310 --> 01:14:55,440
before by somebody else it wasn't done

1629
01:15:04,300 --> 01:14:58,320
at 2650 BC they didn't have that

1630
01:15:06,110 --> 01:15:04,310
knowledge yep and its location is

1631
01:15:08,090 --> 01:15:06,120
exactly at the

1632
01:15:09,800 --> 01:15:08,100
zero Meridian you know before we went to

1633
01:15:12,950 --> 01:15:09,810
Greenwich Mean Time that's the zero

1634
01:15:15,560 --> 01:15:12,960
Meridian it's literally the exact center

1635
01:15:16,580 --> 01:15:15,570
if you draw diagonals across the land

1636
01:15:17,750 --> 01:15:16,590
mass of the whole earth you know if you

1637
01:15:19,400 --> 01:15:17,760
take the earth and flatten it out and

1638
01:15:22,550 --> 01:15:19,410
then draw diagonals through the landmass

1639
01:15:24,800 --> 01:15:22,560
the exact center of the land masses on

1640
01:15:30,350 --> 01:15:24,810
earth is where the pyramid is where the

1641
01:15:32,450 --> 01:15:30,360
pyramid is situated now that's C and

1642
01:15:35,570 --> 01:15:32,460
that's where Edna Nightingale comes in

1643
01:15:38,060 --> 01:15:35,580
what a great segue okay well hold on for

1644
01:15:42,230 --> 01:15:38,070
a second before I get to add when we

1645
01:15:44,420 --> 01:15:42,240
talk about Khafre and that the the

1646
01:15:47,840 --> 01:15:44,430
center pyramid everybody it's the middle

1647
01:15:48,770 --> 01:15:47,850
one that it is solid that there's

1648
01:15:52,910 --> 01:15:48,780
nothing in there

1649
01:15:55,220 --> 01:15:52,920
why what's your opinion why nobody over

1650
01:15:58,570 --> 01:15:55,230
the years hasn't come up and removed

1651
01:16:01,490 --> 01:15:58,580
stones and looked for foreign entrance

1652
01:16:03,490 --> 01:16:01,500
you know honestly I have to choose my

1653
01:16:05,720 --> 01:16:03,500
words carefully here cuz I don't like

1654
01:16:08,000 --> 01:16:05,730
offending people but I think they've

1655
01:16:09,740 --> 01:16:08,010
known for a really long time and if you

1656
01:16:11,210 --> 01:16:09,750
have enough money I was there one time I

1657
01:16:13,460 --> 01:16:11,220
got kicked off the Giza Plateau because

1658
01:16:14,690 --> 01:16:13,470
the impure of Japan was there and

1659
01:16:17,750 --> 01:16:14,700
apparently he's more important than I am

1660
01:16:19,250 --> 01:16:17,760
if you have a lot of money you can pay

1661
01:16:21,350 --> 01:16:19,260
to go see some places that the regular

1662
01:16:23,300 --> 01:16:21,360
public can't go and I don't want to say

1663
01:16:26,240 --> 01:16:23,310
anything bad about any particular person

1664
01:16:28,010 --> 01:16:26,250
if you've been to Egypt there's a

1665
01:16:30,770 --> 01:16:28,020
different way of doing business there

1666
01:16:33,020 --> 01:16:30,780
and they're very poor people and so you

1667
01:16:35,030 --> 01:16:33,030
can expect people there economically

1668
01:16:37,610 --> 01:16:35,040
depressed to bend the rules a little bit

1669
01:16:38,780 --> 01:16:37,620
and Egypt is one of those places where

1670
01:16:40,520 --> 01:16:38,790
if you have a little money to spread

1671
01:16:43,400 --> 01:16:40,530
around there is nothing that is not

1672
01:16:45,740 --> 01:16:43,410
denied to you and you know we saw it in

1673
01:16:48,080 --> 01:16:45,750
the States well during the OJ trial that

1674
01:16:51,020 --> 01:16:48,090
if you have money most of the rules

1675
01:16:53,120 --> 01:16:51,030
don't apply to you and I believe I

1676
01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:53,130
genuinely believe that they've known

1677
01:16:57,050 --> 01:16:54,090
about these things

1678
01:16:59,600 --> 01:16:57,060
maybe all along or maybe just in the

1679
01:17:01,580 --> 01:16:59,610
last six years technology's come become

1680
01:17:03,710 --> 01:17:01,590
available and much more practical to

1681
01:17:06,530 --> 01:17:03,720
literally see through things the Great

1682
01:17:08,060 --> 01:17:06,540
Pyramid was remarkable because there's

1683
01:17:09,800 --> 01:17:08,070
something about it that we still don't

1684
01:17:11,690 --> 01:17:09,810
understand you can't x-ray it you can't

1685
01:17:13,220 --> 01:17:11,700
look through it it's why that mulan

1686
01:17:15,560 --> 01:17:13,230
group the japanese group that did the

1687
01:17:18,170 --> 01:17:15,570
mulan studies that uncovered that room

1688
01:17:19,319 --> 01:17:18,180
recently that was really clever it's the

1689
01:17:20,779 --> 01:17:19,329
first time we

1690
01:17:22,829 --> 01:17:20,789
ever been able to figure out what

1691
01:17:24,089 --> 01:17:22,839
material actually goes through the

1692
01:17:26,129 --> 01:17:24,099
pyramid so that we can check

1693
01:17:27,599 --> 01:17:26,139
scientifically like you would an x-ray

1694
01:17:29,429 --> 01:17:27,609
you know or an ultrasound or something

1695
01:17:32,189 --> 01:17:29,439
so you can't ultrasound it you can't

1696
01:17:35,819 --> 01:17:32,199
x-ray it they do heat studies and that

1697
01:17:37,949 --> 01:17:35,829
kind of tells you but and this is just I

1698
01:17:40,229 --> 01:17:37,959
couldn't produce evidence of this in the

1699
01:17:41,790 --> 01:17:40,239
court of law but if you've been there

1700
01:17:43,469 --> 01:17:41,800
and if you understand anything that's

1701
01:17:45,509 --> 01:17:43,479
this important on this closely guarded

1702
01:17:47,040 --> 01:17:45,519
and if you understand the nature of the

1703
01:17:49,139 --> 01:17:47,050
humanities and people having to protect

1704
01:17:53,149 --> 01:17:49,149
their reputations and so on it's not

1705
01:17:55,290 --> 01:17:53,159
above a you know a scientist or somebody

1706
01:17:57,270 --> 01:17:55,300
gonna choose my words again I don't want

1707
01:17:59,759 --> 01:17:57,280
to paint with too horrible a brush but

1708
01:18:01,379 --> 01:17:59,769
when you're the expert of something and

1709
01:18:03,060 --> 01:18:01,389
then new evidence comes along to

1710
01:18:05,279 --> 01:18:03,070
completely invalidate everything you've

1711
01:18:06,929 --> 01:18:05,289
said it's kind of a basic human emotion

1712
01:18:10,319 --> 01:18:06,939
to want to protect your place and

1713
01:18:11,699 --> 01:18:10,329
protect your all-knowing persona and and

1714
01:18:13,049 --> 01:18:11,709
then the other thing as I said was if

1715
01:18:14,549 --> 01:18:13,059
you've got a little bit of money it's a

1716
01:18:16,259 --> 01:18:14,559
whole different place in Egypt you can

1717
01:18:19,290 --> 01:18:16,269
see things that regular public aren't

1718
01:18:21,060 --> 01:18:19,300
allowed to go so I think that one of the

1719
01:18:23,939 --> 01:18:21,070
things that's remarkable about Egypt and

1720
01:18:26,129 --> 01:18:23,949
remarkable about this territorialism is

1721
01:18:28,979 --> 01:18:26,139
that they all know that they're wrong

1722
01:18:30,270 --> 01:18:28,989
and there's something about I don't know

1723
01:18:32,040 --> 01:18:30,280
if it's government it's hard not to

1724
01:18:33,839 --> 01:18:32,050
lapse into conspiracies here but you

1725
01:18:35,849 --> 01:18:33,849
know in China you can't talk about the

1726
01:18:37,290 --> 01:18:35,859
pyramids you literally get executed if

1727
01:18:39,239 --> 01:18:37,300
you there's some huge pyramids three

1728
01:18:40,619 --> 01:18:39,249
pyramids in China that they've grown

1729
01:18:46,469 --> 01:18:40,629
over with grass and they pretend they're

1730
01:18:48,000 --> 01:18:46,479
not there the early conquistadors and

1731
01:18:49,770 --> 01:18:48,010
early representatives of the Catholic

1732
01:18:53,310 --> 01:18:49,780
Church were quite fond of destroying

1733
01:18:54,839 --> 01:18:53,320
indigenous cultures and eliminating

1734
01:18:57,869 --> 01:18:54,849
their writing you know the Mayan codices

1735
01:19:00,359 --> 01:18:57,879
the meiyan meiyan books were mostly

1736
01:19:02,099 --> 01:19:00,369
burned and really were of the devil and

1737
01:19:04,229 --> 01:19:02,109
there was this moment famous moment in

1738
01:19:09,509 --> 01:19:04,239
history where one of the conquerors in

1739
01:19:10,679 --> 01:19:09,519
the you know in the the Crusades one of

1740
01:19:12,659 --> 01:19:10,689
the great Sultan's

1741
01:19:15,060 --> 01:19:12,669
he found this just treasure trove of

1742
01:19:17,069 --> 01:19:15,070
ancient writing and he said well if it's

1743
01:19:19,169 --> 01:19:17,079
in the Quran it's redundant and if it's

1744
01:19:21,719 --> 01:19:19,179
not in the Quran it's of the devil so

1745
01:19:24,989 --> 01:19:21,729
burn it all and there has been this

1746
01:19:28,559 --> 01:19:24,999
systematic scouring of the voice of

1747
01:19:31,409 --> 01:19:28,569
these ancient people and to this day you

1748
01:19:32,710 --> 01:19:31,419
run into a lot of weird resistance if

1749
01:19:33,580 --> 01:19:32,720
you start

1750
01:19:35,650 --> 01:19:33,590
I'm sure I've told you this even in

1751
01:19:37,330 --> 01:19:35,660
Australia you kind of get in trouble if

1752
01:19:38,590 --> 01:19:37,340
you start pointing out megalithic ruins

1753
01:19:40,120 --> 01:19:38,600
and they're all over the place here and

1754
01:19:41,970 --> 01:19:40,130
there in New Zealand and I know some

1755
01:19:45,220 --> 01:19:41,980
friends it actually went to jail for

1756
01:19:47,440 --> 01:19:45,230
publishing things that just show there

1757
01:19:49,450 --> 01:19:47,450
was ancient civilizations here you know

1758
01:19:51,970 --> 01:19:49,460
in Australia it appears to sell the

1759
01:19:55,180 --> 01:19:51,980
Egyptians came here to mine gold King

1760
01:19:57,730 --> 01:19:55,190
Tut King Tut's face mask has israelian

1761
01:19:59,230 --> 01:19:57,740
gold and it has opals you know that only

1762
01:20:01,120 --> 01:19:59,240
occur in Australia and a couple other

1763
01:20:03,610 --> 01:20:01,130
things and there's boomerangs you know

1764
01:20:05,140 --> 01:20:03,620
in the Cairo Museum and the Aborigines

1765
01:20:06,580 --> 01:20:05,150
here of all things nobody listens to the

1766
01:20:08,320 --> 01:20:06,590
Aborigines for some reason here but

1767
01:20:10,210 --> 01:20:08,330
they're quite vocal about the fact that

1768
01:20:13,180 --> 01:20:10,220
ancient Egypt came here and they were

1769
01:20:15,700 --> 01:20:13,190
magicians and they loved the aborigine

1770
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:15,710
people and they came for the gold and so

1771
01:20:19,690 --> 01:20:17,810
there is this institutional resistance

1772
01:20:21,130 --> 01:20:19,700
and I don't understand but you know you

1773
01:20:22,540 --> 01:20:21,140
don't need to understand why offense is

1774
01:20:26,920 --> 01:20:22,550
there to bump up against it all the time

1775
01:20:29,680 --> 01:20:26,930
yeah I know I I would if I had control

1776
01:20:32,350 --> 01:20:29,690
of Giza while I would do two things one

1777
01:20:34,330 --> 01:20:32,360
I would build a giant vacuum cleaner and

1778
01:20:39,610 --> 01:20:34,340
I would just suck up the sand for about

1779
01:20:41,410 --> 01:20:39,620
for about 50 square miles right I want

1780
01:20:42,940 --> 01:20:41,420
to know what's under the sand that's the

1781
01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:42,950
first thing but the second thing I would

1782
01:20:48,400 --> 01:20:45,530
do is I would I would get some teams

1783
01:20:50,830 --> 01:20:48,410
together and some cranes and I would go

1784
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:50,840
and start removing the blocks on Macari

1785
01:20:58,960 --> 01:20:55,370
and and Khafre yeah I would start to

1786
01:21:02,050 --> 01:20:58,970
look for entrances and if if we believe

1787
01:21:04,600 --> 01:21:02,060
what they are saying that Makka rebuilt

1788
01:21:06,880 --> 01:21:04,610
it for him and and calf rebuilt you know

1789
01:21:10,060 --> 01:21:06,890
the the middle pyramid for him then

1790
01:21:13,720 --> 01:21:10,070
there must be a king's chamber in each

1791
01:21:16,690 --> 01:21:13,730
one right if we believe what they are

1792
01:21:19,150 --> 01:21:16,700
saying yeah and the idea that they would

1793
01:21:20,650 --> 01:21:19,160
never think of having a tomb that isn't

1794
01:21:22,930 --> 01:21:20,660
covered in hieroglyphs and there's no

1795
01:21:24,430 --> 01:21:22,940
writing there's nothing Egyptian inside

1796
01:21:26,650 --> 01:21:24,440
the pyramid well that's because they

1797
01:21:30,880 --> 01:21:26,660
were built before hieroglyphics or even

1798
01:21:33,580 --> 01:21:30,890
a language that's whoopi that's why now

1799
01:21:38,950 --> 01:21:33,590
okay so you just brought up the Meridian

1800
01:21:42,510 --> 01:21:38,960
and that that that's one thing one of

1801
01:21:44,580 --> 01:21:42,520
many that ed Nightingale presented with

1802
01:21:48,450 --> 01:21:44,590
Fibonacci sequence coming off of the

1803
01:21:49,950 --> 01:21:48,460
crown of of the Great Sphinx and this is

1804
01:21:53,580 --> 01:21:49,960
the thing and I want to talk about this

1805
01:21:57,320 --> 01:21:53,590
before we get to the break it's one

1806
01:22:00,900 --> 01:21:57,330
thing when you look at Ed's research

1807
01:22:04,830 --> 01:22:00,910
just on the Giza Plateau as the

1808
01:22:09,300 --> 01:22:04,840
fibonacci unwinds and and all of this

1809
01:22:12,810 --> 01:22:09,310
math starts to surface but it expands

1810
01:22:16,410 --> 01:22:12,820
all the way out into the universe right

1811
01:22:17,460 --> 01:22:16,420
into the Milky Way and you have to ask

1812
01:22:21,300 --> 01:22:17,470
yourself

1813
01:22:22,620 --> 01:22:21,310
Ed's work on this is extraordinary but

1814
01:22:24,840 --> 01:22:22,630
then you have to stop and ask yourself

1815
01:22:28,080 --> 01:22:24,850
what knowledge where did the knowledge

1816
01:22:31,680 --> 01:22:28,090
come from to reach out into the stars

1817
01:22:34,170 --> 01:22:31,690
like that not I mean Sirius is obvious

1818
01:22:35,610 --> 01:22:34,180
and Orion is obvious but that's not what

1819
01:22:39,720 --> 01:22:35,620
we're talking about we're talking about

1820
01:22:41,940 --> 01:22:39,730
the Milky Way in in general which is way

1821
01:22:44,670 --> 01:22:41,950
beyond all of this what do you think

1822
01:22:48,360 --> 01:22:44,680
about Ed's research when when he does

1823
01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:48,370
this presentation as another one of

1824
01:22:52,530 --> 01:22:49,810
those people like Christopher that when

1825
01:22:54,750 --> 01:22:52,540
he's through with you you cannot argue

1826
01:22:56,160 --> 01:22:54,760
you can't argue I mean as I keep saying

1827
01:22:57,540 --> 01:22:56,170
I don't want to harp on this but the

1828
01:23:00,720 --> 01:22:57,550
difference between the humanities and

1829
01:23:02,970 --> 01:23:00,730
the sciences you can't have an opinion

1830
01:23:04,500 --> 01:23:02,980
about math you can't say well in my

1831
01:23:06,870 --> 01:23:04,510
opinion one and one equals three

1832
01:23:08,520 --> 01:23:06,880
the sciences prove themselves the

1833
01:23:10,530 --> 01:23:08,530
scientists saw themselves the nature of

1834
01:23:12,360 --> 01:23:10,540
science is that you can't say

1835
01:23:15,240 --> 01:23:12,370
something's true until it proves itself

1836
01:23:17,490 --> 01:23:15,250
and when you look at the proofs that

1837
01:23:19,260 --> 01:23:17,500
Edie and Christopher and all of us in

1838
01:23:21,690 --> 01:23:19,270
our own way are presenting if you

1839
01:23:22,920 --> 01:23:21,700
actually obey the rules of science you

1840
01:23:25,500 --> 01:23:22,930
don't end up with something that maybe

1841
01:23:28,290 --> 01:23:25,510
this or maybe that it demonstrates to

1842
01:23:30,690 --> 01:23:28,300
you I know from my study of the art that

1843
01:23:32,010 --> 01:23:30,700
the Fibonacci Fibonacci by the way in

1844
01:23:33,870 --> 01:23:32,020
case people don't know what that word is

1845
01:23:35,970 --> 01:23:33,880
is if you looked at a sunflower or an

1846
01:23:38,040 --> 01:23:35,980
artichoke there's that that really

1847
01:23:39,780 --> 01:23:38,050
unique spiral I think the square root of

1848
01:23:42,240 --> 01:23:39,790
two spiral which doesn't mean anything

1849
01:23:45,270 --> 01:23:42,250
with them it's this spiral that you see

1850
01:23:47,490 --> 01:23:45,280
everywhere in nature and it because as

1851
01:23:49,050 --> 01:23:47,500
things grow they grow according to this

1852
01:23:50,760 --> 01:23:49,060
spiral so you see it in Nautilus shells

1853
01:23:53,030 --> 01:23:50,770
you see it in sunflower seeds

1854
01:23:55,140 --> 01:23:53,040
you see it in the spiraling of galaxies

1855
01:23:55,669 --> 01:23:55,150
literally everything that's alive in

1856
01:23:58,880 --> 01:23:55,679
Organa

1857
01:24:01,850 --> 01:23:58,890
if you look hard enough will Express

1858
01:24:03,590 --> 01:24:01,860
this Fibonacci sequence and then the

1859
01:24:05,510 --> 01:24:03,600
other thing I know the brother or sister

1860
01:24:07,580 --> 01:24:05,520
of it is the golden section where your

1861
01:24:12,110 --> 01:24:07,590
whole body is just this bouquet of

1862
01:24:14,360 --> 01:24:12,120
golden section relationships and they

1863
01:24:16,669 --> 01:24:14,370
it's another thing that the Egyptology

1864
01:24:18,229 --> 01:24:16,679
denies that the Egyptians knew but you

1865
01:24:19,399 --> 01:24:18,239
have you know I've showed in the very

1866
01:24:21,640 --> 01:24:19,409
first episode there's hundreds of

1867
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examples of perfect Fibonacci

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progressions and the golden session the

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01:24:26,750 --> 01:24:25,620
use of the golden session which is you

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know to your point earlier about why is

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01:24:31,100 --> 01:24:28,739
it so beautiful everything they do is

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01:24:33,919 --> 01:24:31,110
grid it out beforehand according to the

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01:24:36,229 --> 01:24:33,929
this organic geometry and that's why we

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01:24:38,540 --> 01:24:36,239
have this involuntary response to it

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01:24:39,530 --> 01:24:38,550
because we are made of that and in some

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01:24:42,649 --> 01:24:39,540
way that's hard to articulate

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consciousness partakes of that same

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01:24:49,430 --> 01:24:46,580
geometric structure and so they used

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01:24:50,870 --> 01:24:49,440
geometry on the ground playing a plan as

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well and that's why there's just some

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keys if you understand the keys to Egypt

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01:25:01,100 --> 01:24:57,270
it starts talking to you I think that

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01:25:06,130 --> 01:25:01,110
Ed's work is as important as anything

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01:25:11,959 --> 01:25:08,750
educational systems and on the fringe

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01:25:14,360 --> 01:25:11,969
too as well in our community what you're

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01:25:18,410 --> 01:25:14,370
absolutely right when you when ed is

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done with you if you can't argue it is

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01:25:23,390 --> 01:25:21,239
absolutely remarkable and it all starts

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at the crown of the Sphinx it's

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fascinating

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yeah that movie with Anakin Skywalker's

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01:25:34,160 --> 01:25:32,850
called jumpers it's kind of a pop you

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01:25:35,930 --> 01:25:34,170
know kind of a superficial film but

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01:25:38,000 --> 01:25:35,940
there was a scene where he was jumping

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01:25:39,320 --> 01:25:38,010
he was kind of teleporting and one of

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01:25:41,120 --> 01:25:39,330
the scenes was he teleported onto the

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01:25:43,580 --> 01:25:41,130
head of the Sphinx just this beautiful

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01:25:45,550 --> 01:25:43,590
beautiful shot aerial shot no I didn't

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01:25:52,360 --> 01:25:45,560
but you have a way of

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01:25:54,709 --> 01:25:52,370
segwaying right into something hey

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01:25:59,540 --> 01:25:54,719
speaking of pop culture we've only got

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about a minute left i i watch all of the

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01:26:04,310 --> 01:26:01,710
pop you know like gods of egypt right

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01:26:05,000 --> 01:26:04,320
i'll watch all of these films and go

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01:26:07,910 --> 01:26:05,010
back and

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01:26:10,209 --> 01:26:07,920
look at the symbolism that is that is

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01:26:14,180 --> 01:26:10,219
there and I think that more and more

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01:26:16,490 --> 01:26:14,190
Hollywood these screenwriters and the

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01:26:21,500 --> 01:26:16,500
researchers that go into these films

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they study man they study it and it is

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01:26:26,990 --> 01:26:22,619
spot-on

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I really enjoyed Stargate is an amazing

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film

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and the opening that opening scene with

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James Spader when he's at like the

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metropolitan areas you know whatever

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01:26:43,759 --> 01:26:39,480
museum he's had and he's giving the

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presentation and and and he brings up he

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01:26:49,729 --> 01:26:47,610
brings up Howard Vice it's like wow okay

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01:26:51,620 --> 01:26:49,739
so the thing is what was great about

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01:26:54,560 --> 01:26:51,630
that was when somebody in the audience

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01:26:56,660 --> 01:26:54,570
raises their hand and says well okay if

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01:26:59,990 --> 01:26:56,670
the Egyptians didn't build the pyramids

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01:27:02,149 --> 01:27:00,000
who did and Spader goes well I don't

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01:27:05,060 --> 01:27:02,159
know and everybody that's up and walks

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01:27:08,359 --> 01:27:05,070
out and I thought that's exactly where

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01:27:10,640 --> 01:27:08,369
we are with our with our community today

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01:27:13,250 --> 01:27:10,650
these are the things that we discuss I

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01:27:16,669 --> 01:27:13,260
enjoy the way that Hollywood does their

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research but it's just something and

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01:27:20,120 --> 01:27:17,880
there's this whole thing is that in the

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zeitgeist if somebody actually no that

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01:27:23,060 --> 01:27:21,480
was one of those examples and he keeps

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seeing them that this is in the public

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psyche we all really all know this and

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01:27:29,750 --> 01:27:28,440
everyone is so interested five year olds

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and a hundred year olds there's just

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something in our collective

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01:27:34,850 --> 01:27:33,179
consciousness that we're all looking to

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01:27:36,379 --> 01:27:34,860
Egypt and waiting for something to

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happen that's gonna change everything

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01:27:40,759 --> 01:27:39,059
and maybe it's just that the people are

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01:27:42,259 --> 01:27:40,769
in charge are really happy with the way

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01:27:43,430 --> 01:27:42,269
things are they're perfectly happy that

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we're using gasoline and petroleum

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01:27:47,930 --> 01:27:45,869
they're perfectly happy with you know

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01:27:49,520 --> 01:27:47,940
that we have some freedoms but a lot of

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01:27:51,410 --> 01:27:49,530
things we don't have freedom and and and

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01:27:53,930 --> 01:27:51,420
if you think of the world more as a

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01:27:55,910 --> 01:27:53,940
people farm then as a park or everyone's

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01:27:58,370 --> 01:27:55,920
operating there's a lot of reasons to

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01:27:59,720 --> 01:27:58,380
keep things the way they are and so the

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01:28:02,089 --> 01:27:59,730
thing that you hear a lot in the UFO

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01:28:03,439 --> 01:28:02,099
community as well if you really told the

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01:28:05,959 --> 01:28:03,449
truth about this place it's gonna raise

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01:28:07,459 --> 01:28:05,969
some huge questions about you know how

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01:28:09,259 --> 01:28:07,469
did they do this without gasoline how

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01:28:11,149 --> 01:28:09,269
did they do it without engines and all

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01:28:12,770 --> 01:28:11,159
of a sudden is there another technology

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01:28:14,689 --> 01:28:12,780
that's clean and naturally-occurring

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01:28:16,620 --> 01:28:14,699
that if you knew enough about telluric

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01:28:18,600 --> 01:28:16,630
energy and magnetism and

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01:28:19,879 --> 01:28:18,610
and sound you know in the vibration

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01:28:22,200 --> 01:28:19,889
there are much more sophisticated

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01:28:23,550 --> 01:28:22,210
sciences that we should have been onto

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01:28:26,360 --> 01:28:23,560
by now you know we shouldn't have been

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01:28:29,310 --> 01:28:26,370
doing gasoline after 1900s it's just a

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01:28:30,930 --> 01:28:29,320
terrible idea but there's so much money

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01:28:34,110 --> 01:28:30,940
that we're never allowed to evolve out

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01:28:36,379 --> 01:28:34,120
of it and somehow this idea that we used

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01:28:40,560 --> 01:28:36,389
to be so much smarter and didn't need

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01:28:41,790 --> 01:28:40,570
traditional tools that I think I mean

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01:28:45,000 --> 01:28:41,800
the only thing I can think of about why

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01:28:46,560 --> 01:28:45,010
it's so it seems so important that we're

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01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:46,570
not allowed to know or talk about this

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01:28:53,160 --> 01:28:49,570
maybe in some way like that that there's

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01:28:54,840 --> 01:28:53,170
just something that happens or something

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01:28:55,919 --> 01:28:54,850
that's brought to light I think he'd

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01:28:58,010 --> 01:28:55,929
asked about this last time we talked

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01:29:00,209 --> 01:28:58,020
there might be some things that make it

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01:29:02,760 --> 01:29:00,219
incontrovertible that we're all living a

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01:29:04,800 --> 01:29:02,770
lie of sorts and that we shouldn't be

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01:29:06,990 --> 01:29:04,810
watching TV and we shouldn't be pursuing

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01:29:08,430 --> 01:29:07,000
you know our next Lexus but that there's

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01:29:09,959 --> 01:29:08,440
something really important we're all

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01:29:12,240 --> 01:29:09,969
supposed to be doing that we only have

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01:29:14,879 --> 01:29:12,250
one lifetime to do and we've been

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01:29:16,080 --> 01:29:14,889
completely distracted from it just like

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01:29:17,280 --> 01:29:16,090
if you have a duck farm

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01:29:19,919 --> 01:29:17,290
you don't want ducks to know about

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01:29:21,090 --> 01:29:19,929
migration and you know it was even

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01:29:22,290 --> 01:29:21,100
better as if you can convince them they

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01:29:24,600 --> 01:29:22,300
don't know how to fly so you don't have

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01:29:26,189 --> 01:29:24,610
to build fences

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01:29:28,110 --> 01:29:26,199
that's exactly right we got to take a

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break right here so let's do that

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our guest tonight chance gardener we're

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talking about the magical Egypt online

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symposium and all stuff Egypt tonight

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with chance gardener Armero super church

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01:33:32,490 --> 01:33:30,430
Network hi I'm Lisa Vance you're

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listening to Jimmy Church this is a

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[Music]

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01:34:27,290 --> 01:34:25,070
welcome back fade to black I'm heroes

2082
01:34:29,990 --> 01:34:27,300
Timmy church tonight chance gardeners

2083
01:34:31,820 --> 01:34:30,000
here magically Egypt the online

2084
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symposium is going on right now and you

2085
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get all the information by going to

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links up both over on the website and of

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course Twitter and chance we're going

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01:34:49,010 --> 01:34:44,460
through this and one of the aspects of

2090
01:34:51,260 --> 01:34:49,020
Egypt that if you're in our circle

2091
01:34:53,690 --> 01:34:51,270
that's one thing but outside of the

2092
01:34:56,450 --> 01:34:53,700
circle its Hermeticism you know and

2093
01:35:00,020 --> 01:34:56,460
we've got to go there now you landed

2094
01:35:01,430 --> 01:35:00,030
mile oh man and I got it Oh Oh before we

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01:35:06,050 --> 01:35:01,440
get to lon

2096
01:35:07,430 --> 01:35:06,060
did you know he was a musician I I'm

2097
01:35:08,630 --> 01:35:07,440
hesitant to say this because I'm sure

2098
01:35:10,190 --> 01:35:08,640
going to embarrass myself I've been

2099
01:35:11,840 --> 01:35:10,200
playing guitar with lawn for a couple of

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01:35:14,480 --> 01:35:11,850
decades long is a huge friend of mine

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01:35:16,100 --> 01:35:14,490
and um he and I performed together for a

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01:35:18,470 --> 01:35:16,110
while when I was in California I loved

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01:35:19,910 --> 01:35:18,480
him like I know that he's like two

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01:35:22,190 --> 01:35:19,920
people he's long the musician he was

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01:35:25,490 --> 01:35:22,200
very famous it's very famous very famous

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01:35:28,580 --> 01:35:25,500
and and this is the thing and we were

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01:35:30,770 --> 01:35:28,590
talking about this earlier you know we

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01:35:32,330 --> 01:35:30,780
just had Kurt James on the show and one

2109
01:35:35,510 --> 01:35:32,340
of the things about fade to black

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is the the you know the combination of

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01:35:41,180 --> 01:35:38,940
of music and musicians and these

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01:35:44,060 --> 01:35:41,190
subjects I'm fascinated with that and

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01:35:46,400 --> 01:35:44,070
Juan is one of those cats man he's just

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01:35:49,130 --> 01:35:46,410
the nicest guy he reminds me of burr

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01:35:49,370 --> 01:35:49,140
lives are saying Santa Claus rolled into

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01:35:51,920 --> 01:35:49,380
one

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01:35:53,720 --> 01:35:51,930
right right right right and it's such a

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01:35:56,600 --> 01:35:53,730
funny person you don't find many funny

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01:36:00,470 --> 01:35:56,610
people in this genre and and Hermeticism

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01:36:01,550 --> 01:36:00,480
right well that amazing so the things

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01:36:03,890 --> 01:36:01,560
that we've been talking about have been

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01:36:06,050 --> 01:36:03,900
very technical and engineering and stone

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01:36:07,970 --> 01:36:06,060
oriented but one of the things that is

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01:36:09,350 --> 01:36:07,980
really the life force of magical Egypt

2125
01:36:13,570 --> 01:36:09,360
in addition to this technical business

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01:36:16,490 --> 01:36:13,580
is a lot of the people in the show are

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01:36:18,620 --> 01:36:16,500
talking specifically about esotericism

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01:36:19,640 --> 01:36:18,630
one of the people that i just a huge

2129
01:36:22,610 --> 01:36:19,650
friend of mine are just a really

2130
01:36:24,560 --> 01:36:22,620
remarkable person is dr. Aaron cheek who

2131
01:36:25,670 --> 01:36:24,570
is a very good friend of mine but the

2132
01:36:27,680 --> 01:36:25,680
thing that we kind of bonded over

2133
01:36:30,140 --> 01:36:27,690
originally was his actual doctoral

2134
01:36:32,300 --> 01:36:30,150
thesis was in swallow de lubic and this

2135
01:36:34,610 --> 01:36:32,310
guy he is he's a doctor of comparative

2136
01:36:36,710 --> 01:36:34,620
religion and so here's a very

2137
01:36:38,360 --> 01:36:36,720
credible person that understands all of

2138
01:36:40,820 --> 01:36:38,370
these different traditional religious

2139
01:36:42,410 --> 01:36:40,830
you know esoteric systems Aaron's doing

2140
01:36:44,690 --> 01:36:42,420
a talk called the hermetic arts as

2141
01:36:48,290 --> 01:36:44,700
Egyptian sciences and when people think

2142
01:36:50,090 --> 01:36:48,300
about esotericism or you know the occult

2143
01:36:52,100 --> 01:36:50,100
that comes from Egypt if you think of

2144
01:36:53,720 --> 01:36:52,110
alchemy typically but there are three

2145
01:36:55,400 --> 01:36:53,730
sister Sciences Aaron's going to do a

2146
01:36:57,350 --> 01:36:55,410
fantastic presentation of this the three

2147
01:37:01,580 --> 01:36:57,360
sister Sciences in Egypt where alchemy

2148
01:37:03,770 --> 01:37:01,590
seer G and astrology and I don't know if

2149
01:37:05,530 --> 01:37:03,780
you've ever watched this but Michael

2150
01:37:08,780 --> 01:37:05,540
Schneider who was in the original

2151
01:37:10,820 --> 01:37:08,790
magical Egypt showed the way Egyptians

2152
01:37:12,650 --> 01:37:10,830
did math and multiplication and it's not

2153
01:37:15,380 --> 01:37:12,660
the way we do it but it works it's

2154
01:37:17,480 --> 01:37:15,390
different but it works and it's the

2155
01:37:18,710 --> 01:37:17,490
height of ridiculous hubris to say well

2156
01:37:20,690 --> 01:37:18,720
they're wrong because they don't do it

2157
01:37:23,300 --> 01:37:20,700
the way that we do because there's a lot

2158
01:37:24,860 --> 01:37:23,310
of ways if you use Egyptian math you can

2159
01:37:27,170 --> 01:37:24,870
do things that you can't do in our math

2160
01:37:30,500 --> 01:37:27,180
and you know I'm sure it works the other

2161
01:37:32,660 --> 01:37:30,510
way too but Aaron shows so alchemy most

2162
01:37:36,470 --> 01:37:32,670
people are familiar with alchemy fiour

2163
01:37:39,380 --> 01:37:36,480
Zhi and astrology all form this triad

2164
01:37:40,790 --> 01:37:39,390
and in this way are kind of the three

2165
01:37:42,170 --> 01:37:40,800
sides of you know here's the science

2166
01:37:43,700 --> 01:37:42,180
that applies to mind here's the science

2167
01:37:44,990 --> 01:37:43,710
that applies to the outside world here's

2168
01:37:48,470 --> 01:37:45,000
the science that applies to the Stars

2169
01:37:54,110 --> 01:37:48,480
and they're all interconnected we also

2170
01:37:57,950 --> 01:37:54,120
have Thomas Brown Joseph Thomas Brown

2171
01:38:02,900 --> 01:37:57,960
and Thomas Sheridan both of them talking

2172
01:38:06,110 --> 01:38:02,910
about how do well first of all Thomas

2173
01:38:09,080 --> 01:38:06,120
Sheridan is really getting into this

2174
01:38:11,900 --> 01:38:09,090
sort of Gibbs er idea that you can judge

2175
01:38:13,940 --> 01:38:11,910
the caliber or the grade or the quality

2176
01:38:14,930 --> 01:38:13,950
of consciousness of a civilization how

2177
01:38:17,120 --> 01:38:14,940
smart they were and they're just

2178
01:38:20,060 --> 01:38:17,130
calibrate their consciousness by looking

2179
01:38:22,750 --> 01:38:20,070
at their art by their architecture

2180
01:38:24,920 --> 01:38:22,760
mythos the architecture and all of that

2181
01:38:26,450 --> 01:38:24,930
julia cannon that's gonna be talking

2182
01:38:29,150 --> 01:38:26,460
about this is the daughter of dolores

2183
01:38:32,450 --> 01:38:29,160
cannon who she's a past life regression

2184
01:38:34,100 --> 01:38:32,460
test and she's done so many past life

2185
01:38:35,810 --> 01:38:34,110
regressions that she started finding

2186
01:38:37,970 --> 01:38:35,820
this thing that she didn't expect that

2187
01:38:40,160 --> 01:38:37,980
in between incarnations there's this

2188
01:38:43,040 --> 01:38:40,170
kind of place you go and many people

2189
01:38:44,480 --> 01:38:43,050
describe it similarly and just as a

2190
01:38:46,130 --> 01:38:44,490
personal aside

2191
01:38:47,840 --> 01:38:46,140
I hear a lot of Freddie Mercury songs I

2192
01:38:49,040 --> 01:38:47,850
think that must be the song that's

2193
01:38:51,970 --> 01:38:49,050
playing in the waiting room between

2194
01:38:53,660 --> 01:38:51,980
incarnations but anyway the Egyptian

2195
01:38:56,360 --> 01:38:53,670
esotericism that you talked about the

2196
01:38:58,490 --> 01:38:56,370
reason that's so important that's why is

2197
01:39:00,770 --> 01:38:58,500
for you everyone listening Egypt is

2198
01:39:03,220 --> 01:39:00,780
talking specifically to you and when you

2199
01:39:06,140 --> 01:39:03,230
hear these words like esotericism or

2200
01:39:09,110 --> 01:39:06,150
seer G or astrology it's just really

2201
01:39:12,020 --> 01:39:09,120
this science of understanding your

2202
01:39:15,860 --> 01:39:12,030
psyche your connection to the outside

2203
01:39:19,100 --> 01:39:15,870
world and specifically these very

2204
01:39:21,650 --> 01:39:19,110
specific instructions about how you can

2205
01:39:23,660 --> 01:39:21,660
maximize yourself like any bodybuilder

2206
01:39:25,400 --> 01:39:23,670
you're not finished when you're born

2207
01:39:26,660 --> 01:39:25,410
you're all scrawny and ropey and stuff

2208
01:39:27,950 --> 01:39:26,670
and there's this thing that you can do

2209
01:39:29,530 --> 01:39:27,960
with this practice that makes your

2210
01:39:33,050 --> 01:39:29,540
muscles big and your body beautiful

2211
01:39:34,790 --> 01:39:33,060
there are that same science does that to

2212
01:39:37,780 --> 01:39:34,800
your mind you know imagine a ripped mind

2213
01:39:41,410 --> 01:39:37,790
and a six-pack up in your head and this

2214
01:39:44,540 --> 01:39:41,420
ancient ancient science isn't just

2215
01:39:46,610 --> 01:39:44,550
materialistic it describes consciousness

2216
01:39:47,960 --> 01:39:46,620
but not just the cycle that we know

2217
01:39:49,460 --> 01:39:47,970
about that you know you start as

2218
01:39:50,570 --> 01:39:49,470
conception and then you're incubated in

2219
01:39:52,490 --> 01:39:50,580
the womb and then you're born and then

2220
01:39:55,670 --> 01:39:52,500
your child and your adult then you die

2221
01:39:57,740 --> 01:39:55,680
this science follows the entire cycle of

2222
01:40:03,290 --> 01:39:57,750
consciousness from life to life to life

2223
01:40:05,810 --> 01:40:03,300
and it's very touching thing John West

2224
01:40:07,100 --> 01:40:05,820
right before he died the last project he

2225
01:40:09,680 --> 01:40:07,110
worked on before he died as he

2226
01:40:12,020 --> 01:40:09,690
co-authored a book that just compiled

2227
01:40:13,940 --> 01:40:12,030
the millions and millions of stories of

2228
01:40:15,710 --> 01:40:13,950
people who come back from the dead or

2229
01:40:17,960 --> 01:40:15,720
children who were born that have a

2230
01:40:19,640 --> 01:40:17,970
complete accurate memory of their life

2231
01:40:21,500 --> 01:40:19,650
before so you know a little

2232
01:40:23,660 --> 01:40:21,510
seven-year-old kid says my real name is

2233
01:40:25,700 --> 01:40:23,670
John Westen I was a world war two pilot

2234
01:40:28,070 --> 01:40:25,710
my wife's name is Beatrice we were live

2235
01:40:30,640 --> 01:40:28,080
at one to seven fake Street and you go

2236
01:40:32,390 --> 01:40:30,650
and there's Beatrice at that address and

2237
01:40:34,040 --> 01:40:32,400
it's another one of those things that

2238
01:40:35,210 --> 01:40:34,050
Orthodox science just hates to talk

2239
01:40:38,150 --> 01:40:35,220
about it's a good way to get eyes

2240
01:40:40,580 --> 01:40:38,160
rolling but the science of the ancient

2241
01:40:42,590 --> 01:40:40,590
world as will be detailed by a number of

2242
01:40:44,450 --> 01:40:42,600
people in the symposium draws attention

2243
01:40:46,220 --> 01:40:44,460
to this other model of consciousness

2244
01:40:47,630 --> 01:40:46,230
where your consciousness just the way

2245
01:40:48,740 --> 01:40:47,640
that you've you know imagine if you're

2246
01:40:49,540 --> 01:40:48,750
still driving the first car you ever

2247
01:40:52,940 --> 01:40:49,550
owned

2248
01:40:56,840 --> 01:40:52,950
you keep trading up these vehicles like

2249
01:40:58,430 --> 01:40:56,850
a cosmic what's that video game Grand

2250
01:41:00,650 --> 01:40:58,440
Theft Auto you know you keep trading a

2251
01:41:02,060 --> 01:41:00,660
you keep trading your vehicles and and

2252
01:41:05,260 --> 01:41:02,070
your consciousness keeps evolving

2253
01:41:08,000 --> 01:41:05,270
through this series of incarnations and

2254
01:41:10,700 --> 01:41:08,010
so there's this idea that Plato came up

2255
01:41:13,220 --> 01:41:10,710
or the Plato postulated this thing

2256
01:41:17,120 --> 01:41:13,230
called anamnesis and what it means is

2257
01:41:18,860 --> 01:41:17,130
soul memory and I think part of the

2258
01:41:20,870 --> 01:41:18,870
reason why people response so much to

2259
01:41:22,610 --> 01:41:20,880
just looking at ancient Egypt is that

2260
01:41:24,650 --> 01:41:22,620
either one of these two models is

2261
01:41:27,380 --> 01:41:24,660
correct that you're just dead the big

2262
01:41:29,090 --> 01:41:27,390
black sack once you're dead or you're

2263
01:41:31,490 --> 01:41:29,100
not and consciousness is this thing that

2264
01:41:33,920 --> 01:41:31,500
lives on from body to body and over you

2265
01:41:35,570 --> 01:41:33,930
know vast amounts of time and so if the

2266
01:41:37,700 --> 01:41:35,580
premise is true that you've lived

2267
01:41:39,890 --> 01:41:37,710
millions perhaps of lives

2268
01:41:41,870 --> 01:41:39,900
this idea of anamnesis means that you

2269
01:41:43,310 --> 01:41:41,880
never learn anything new but when you

2270
01:41:45,050 --> 01:41:43,320
see something that's true that you

2271
01:41:47,959 --> 01:41:45,060
learned in some previous incarnation you

2272
01:41:49,820 --> 01:41:47,969
instantly recognize it's true and so the

2273
01:41:51,290 --> 01:41:49,830
way that we respond to music you just

2274
01:41:52,729 --> 01:41:51,300
either like something right away or you

2275
01:41:54,500 --> 01:41:52,739
don't and the way you see someone's face

2276
01:41:55,880 --> 01:41:54,510
you've never seen before but you you

2277
01:41:57,830 --> 01:41:55,890
already know you have chemistry with

2278
01:41:59,240 --> 01:41:57,840
them and you have some dynamic where you

2279
01:42:00,800 --> 01:41:59,250
have to you know get up in their tree

2280
01:42:03,110 --> 01:42:00,810
and figure out why they look so familiar

2281
01:42:04,700 --> 01:42:03,120
to you so I love this idea and it works

2282
01:42:06,650 --> 01:42:04,710
in art - the reason why we respond to

2283
01:42:08,959 --> 01:42:06,660
art some people love Jackson Pollock and

2284
01:42:11,270 --> 01:42:08,969
some people love Salvador Dali that you

2285
01:42:14,180 --> 01:42:11,280
recognize something from previous life's

2286
01:42:15,650 --> 01:42:14,190
I've probably told you this I play

2287
01:42:17,900 --> 01:42:15,660
guitar my whole life but there's a

2288
01:42:19,580 --> 01:42:17,910
fairly famous guitar player in Los

2289
01:42:21,260 --> 01:42:19,590
Angeles that I used to sit with and I

2290
01:42:23,060 --> 01:42:21,270
would sit with him and I found that I

2291
01:42:24,620 --> 01:42:23,070
you know just a couple of weeks of

2292
01:42:26,570 --> 01:42:24,630
playing guitar with this guy I connected

2293
01:42:28,189 --> 01:42:26,580
to what must have been a hundred years

2294
01:42:31,189 --> 01:42:28,199
worth of guitar lessons like I've never

2295
01:42:33,229 --> 01:42:31,199
taken a guitar lesson and I just all of

2296
01:42:34,580 --> 01:42:33,239
a sudden discovered that I fully I had

2297
01:42:36,080 --> 01:42:34,590
this just like suitcase I've never

2298
01:42:38,720 --> 01:42:36,090
looked in before that was full of guitar

2299
01:42:41,840 --> 01:42:38,730
Alex who was a tune acknowledge who was

2300
01:42:43,130 --> 01:42:41,850
it we've talked to him but he doesn't

2301
01:42:44,209 --> 01:42:43,140
like it when I drop this name you and I

2302
01:42:45,350 --> 01:42:44,219
have talked to him he used to used to

2303
01:42:49,939 --> 01:42:45,360
live in the same building with him when

2304
01:42:51,650 --> 01:42:49,949
you lived by okay all right no okay okay

2305
01:42:56,510 --> 01:42:51,660
he gets mad when I drop his name but

2306
01:42:58,100 --> 01:42:56,520
anyway he's amazing but I'm just sitting

2307
01:42:59,930 --> 01:42:58,110
in his field you know sitting next to

2308
01:43:01,610 --> 01:42:59,940
him and I just all of a sudden was like

2309
01:43:03,350 --> 01:43:01,620
I could do these things that are not

2310
01:43:04,970 --> 01:43:03,360
easy and I'm just you know I'm not a

2311
01:43:07,100 --> 01:43:04,980
meticulous person and I certainly

2312
01:43:10,640 --> 01:43:07,110
haven't spent enough time to earn the

2313
01:43:11,800 --> 01:43:10,650
right to play guitar but that's just my

2314
01:43:15,580 --> 01:43:11,810
personal story but

2315
01:43:16,720 --> 01:43:15,590
you know there were so many people

2316
01:43:19,600 --> 01:43:16,730
who've connected with something

2317
01:43:20,680 --> 01:43:19,610
important about themselves that they

2318
01:43:22,450 --> 01:43:20,690
don't know why they know it they don't

2319
01:43:25,990 --> 01:43:22,460
know why they're compelled to do it and

2320
01:43:27,970 --> 01:43:26,000
so I found this idea of soul memory very

2321
01:43:31,240 --> 01:43:27,980
interesting and it certainly jives with

2322
01:43:34,210 --> 01:43:31,250
the Egyptian model of consciousness that

2323
01:43:36,610 --> 01:43:34,220
you have this massive store of

2324
01:43:38,830 --> 01:43:36,620
information you can draw upon if you

2325
01:43:40,300 --> 01:43:38,840
learn how to do it there's no additional

2326
01:43:45,580 --> 01:43:40,310
artist knows how to draw on that voice

2327
01:43:49,780 --> 01:43:45,590
is isn't it fascinating how hermeticism

2328
01:43:52,630 --> 01:43:49,790
and Thoth and the entire educational

2329
01:43:55,720 --> 01:43:52,640
system in the around the world all got

2330
01:43:58,570 --> 01:43:55,730
together in Egypt shared their ideas and

2331
01:44:01,420 --> 01:43:58,580
that we're talking about 2000 BC right

2332
01:44:04,380 --> 01:44:01,430
yeah right and certainly they

2333
01:44:07,060 --> 01:44:04,390
conservatively and how that knowledge

2334
01:44:11,170 --> 01:44:07,070
influenced everything on this planet it

2335
01:44:14,680 --> 01:44:11,180
is permeated out and into every culture

2336
01:44:16,270 --> 01:44:14,690
here and you can here see the symbols

2337
01:44:17,470 --> 01:44:16,280
what's kind of interesting Oh Graham

2338
01:44:18,790 --> 01:44:17,480
Hancock says this all the time we're a

2339
01:44:21,460 --> 01:44:18,800
species with amnesia

2340
01:44:22,570 --> 01:44:21,470
these symbols all attest and you see

2341
01:44:24,040 --> 01:44:22,580
them in architecture like you can walk

2342
01:44:26,020 --> 01:44:24,050
down the street in London and you can

2343
01:44:27,640 --> 01:44:26,030
see these symbols these architectural

2344
01:44:29,530 --> 01:44:27,650
symbols like architecture speaks in this

2345
01:44:32,140 --> 01:44:29,540
language just like hieroglyphs or sorry

2346
01:44:33,310 --> 01:44:32,150
you know heraldry coat of arms and

2347
01:44:36,460 --> 01:44:33,320
there's a language of that there's all

2348
01:44:40,030 --> 01:44:36,470
kinds of visual languages and yeah that

2349
01:44:44,530 --> 01:44:40,040
just that amazes me the the symbolism of

2350
01:44:47,320 --> 01:44:44,540
the Sun and the winged disc and what it

2351
01:44:49,450 --> 01:44:47,330
represents look we can we can talk about

2352
01:44:53,980 --> 01:44:49,460
Sitchin we can talk about each palette

2353
01:44:58,240 --> 01:44:53,990
we can talk about why Isis whatever you

2354
01:45:00,610 --> 01:44:58,250
want to attribute to it but the

2355
01:45:04,720 --> 01:45:00,620
symbolism is there and it is everywhere

2356
01:45:06,460 --> 01:45:04,730
on this planet we were talking about we

2357
01:45:11,580 --> 01:45:06,470
were talking about I brought up the gods

2358
01:45:14,800 --> 01:45:11,590
of Egypt earlier the the the winged disc

2359
01:45:18,010 --> 01:45:14,810
could it be a craft could it be Nibiru

2360
01:45:21,130 --> 01:45:18,020
could it be this could okay well put all

2361
01:45:23,570 --> 01:45:21,140
of that aside the way that Hollywood

2362
01:45:27,800 --> 01:45:23,580
dealt with it in

2363
01:45:31,910 --> 01:45:27,810
and the gods movie that I was talking

2364
01:45:36,140 --> 01:45:31,920
about earlier was they had rah was

2365
01:45:38,390 --> 01:45:36,150
pulling the Sun with chains around

2366
01:45:39,830 --> 01:45:38,400
have you seen gods of Egypt you know

2367
01:45:43,000 --> 01:45:39,840
it's you know it's been on my list and I

2368
01:45:46,070 --> 01:45:43,010
just haven't just go and watch it

2369
01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:46,080
because everything that we talk about on

2370
01:45:49,670 --> 01:45:47,850
the show is touched upon in the movie

2371
01:45:54,830 --> 01:45:49,680
all of the guys are there and and so

2372
01:45:57,860 --> 01:45:54,840
forth but rah has got this platform this

2373
01:46:02,480 --> 01:45:57,870
ship this satellite and he's orbiting

2374
01:46:05,720 --> 01:46:02,490
the Earth and he is towing the Sun with

2375
01:46:08,390 --> 01:46:05,730
chains why he's circling the Earth and

2376
01:46:11,210 --> 01:46:08,400
you know every 24 hours he but you have

2377
01:46:14,060 --> 01:46:11,220
to see how they deal with it which goes

2378
01:46:17,330 --> 01:46:14,070
back to you know the the Sun disk in the

2379
01:46:19,670 --> 01:46:17,340
winged disc but this symbolism is

2380
01:46:22,130 --> 01:46:19,680
everywhere on this planet and it all

2381
01:46:25,790 --> 01:46:22,140
started you know right there in Egypt

2382
01:46:27,830 --> 01:46:25,800
yeah you know if you look around there

2383
01:46:30,020 --> 01:46:27,840
if you look at the Sumerians and

2384
01:46:32,780 --> 01:46:30,030
Acadians and I'm I'm fascinated with

2385
01:46:33,920 --> 01:46:32,790
zecharia sitchin except if you talk

2386
01:46:37,010 --> 01:46:33,930
about him at all you have to acknowledge

2387
01:46:38,690 --> 01:46:37,020
that he's one of like eight or nine or

2388
01:46:40,610 --> 01:46:38,700
twelve people in the world that can read

2389
01:46:42,050 --> 01:46:40,620
that language and everyone else that can

2390
01:46:46,000 --> 01:46:42,060
read the language says he's full of [\h__\h]

2391
01:46:49,700 --> 01:46:46,010
he's like it's weird right

2392
01:46:51,200 --> 01:46:49,710
and I really want that to be true

2393
01:46:53,510 --> 01:46:51,210
because that is the coolest and explain

2394
01:46:55,160 --> 01:46:53,520
so much and there's a lot of crazy

2395
01:46:56,630 --> 01:46:55,170
people just making stuff up and there's

2396
01:46:58,460 --> 01:46:56,640
a whole cottage industry of just making

2397
01:47:00,410 --> 01:46:58,470
stuff up about that but there's some

2398
01:47:02,960 --> 01:47:00,420
really careful people and you know Lloyd

2399
01:47:05,840 --> 01:47:02,970
Pye I've ever talked I know every word

2400
01:47:07,280 --> 01:47:05,850
of Lloyd Pye Lloyd Pye is another one

2401
01:47:09,920 --> 01:47:07,290
those people it's really hard to argue

2402
01:47:11,990 --> 01:47:09,930
if he even shows that our DNA is not

2403
01:47:13,760 --> 01:47:12,000
natural we have these last two

2404
01:47:18,040 --> 01:47:13,770
chromosomes or whatever refused and that

2405
01:47:20,360 --> 01:47:18,050
our DNA appears to have had modified and

2406
01:47:22,460 --> 01:47:20,370
saying who did that you know it's kind

2407
01:47:23,990 --> 01:47:22,470
of a lead but it's you can't deny the

2408
01:47:28,310 --> 01:47:24,000
fact that our DNA isn't like anything

2409
01:47:30,530 --> 01:47:28,320
else on earth and I really love that

2410
01:47:32,390 --> 01:47:30,540
whole idea because in a way it puts a

2411
01:47:34,160 --> 01:47:32,400
neat bow on where did this anomalous

2412
01:47:35,540 --> 01:47:34,170
information come from but also when you

2413
01:47:36,740 --> 01:47:35,550
think about you know America has only

2414
01:47:37,160 --> 01:47:36,750
been around for a couple hundred years

2415
01:47:38,660 --> 01:47:37,170
and

2416
01:47:42,590 --> 01:47:38,670
look where we've come we've come from

2417
01:47:44,930 --> 01:47:42,600
oxen plough to satellites and it only

2418
01:47:47,060 --> 01:47:44,940
took 200 years so if you Gyptians stood

2419
01:47:49,520 --> 01:47:47,070
in place for even 5000 years you can

2420
01:47:51,169 --> 01:47:49,530
imagine just human ingenuity and human

2421
01:47:52,280 --> 01:47:51,179
intellect over the space that lived in

2422
01:47:54,650 --> 01:47:52,290
the thousand years you're gonna come up

2423
01:47:56,090 --> 01:47:54,660
with some amazing things there I believe

2424
01:47:57,919 --> 01:47:56,100
there's a point at which you can't

2425
01:47:59,510 --> 01:47:57,929
progress technologically there's a point

2426
01:48:01,430 --> 01:47:59,520
at which you're all the way smart you

2427
01:48:02,810 --> 01:48:01,440
understand the game and then you don't

2428
01:48:05,479 --> 01:48:02,820
need machines as much because you can

2429
01:48:07,370 --> 01:48:05,489
use natural forces to do the amazing

2430
01:48:10,520 --> 01:48:07,380
things there's a guy out there his name

2431
01:48:10,760 --> 01:48:10,530
is Eric bond and Berg and you spell his

2432
01:48:16,370 --> 01:48:10,770
name

2433
01:48:20,860 --> 01:48:16,380
ae Rik Eric okay and go look up his work

2434
01:48:24,560 --> 01:48:20,870
and and his essays but one of the things

2435
01:48:27,350 --> 01:48:24,570
that he presents is he debunks the

2436
01:48:30,260 --> 01:48:27,360
debunkers right so and he's you know

2437
01:48:33,910 --> 01:48:30,270
he's a he's a very educated guy I'm not

2438
01:48:37,669 --> 01:48:33,920
gonna go there but his presentations on

2439
01:48:39,500 --> 01:48:37,679
debunking like Heiser who went out of

2440
01:48:41,150 --> 01:48:39,510
his way to tear stitching apart right

2441
01:48:41,780 --> 01:48:41,160
he's got a website called stitching is

2442
01:48:45,050 --> 01:48:41,790
wrong

2443
01:48:47,450 --> 01:48:45,060
well anyway go and and and check out his

2444
01:48:50,030 --> 01:48:47,460
work because what he has done one of the

2445
01:48:53,870 --> 01:48:50,040
things that Heiser has said over the

2446
01:48:58,330 --> 01:48:53,880
years is that go look at the Chicago

2447
01:49:02,120 --> 01:48:58,340
University automatic look up for the

2448
01:49:05,450 --> 01:49:02,130
Sumerian text and and the gold has never

2449
01:49:07,939 --> 01:49:05,460
said once write so well and when Heiser

2450
01:49:09,830 --> 01:49:07,949
said that I went and looked and I found

2451
01:49:13,220 --> 01:49:09,840
out that Heiser was actually wrong I

2452
01:49:15,650 --> 01:49:13,230
couldn't take the time to look and read

2453
01:49:18,500 --> 01:49:15,660
up you know all of the Sumerian texts

2454
01:49:20,360 --> 01:49:18,510
and stuff but I knew that Heiser was

2455
01:49:22,459 --> 01:49:20,370
wrong and I don't want to take away from

2456
01:49:25,370 --> 01:49:22,469
Michael I don't talk smack about anybody

2457
01:49:27,530 --> 01:49:25,380
but what it did prevent me from doing is

2458
01:49:30,229 --> 01:49:27,540
reading anything more about Heiser I

2459
01:49:32,959 --> 01:49:30,239
didn't I wasn't concerned about it if

2460
01:49:36,020 --> 01:49:32,969
you're wrong once you know and you're

2461
01:49:38,570 --> 01:49:36,030
attacking somebody so anyway I'm Eric

2462
01:49:41,900 --> 01:49:38,580
Vaughn in bergs a site he goes back and

2463
01:49:46,760 --> 01:49:41,910
he analyzes all of the Sumerian text

2464
01:49:49,010 --> 01:49:46,770
which which clay tablet the number and

2465
01:49:51,680 --> 01:49:49,020
and any breaks it all down and it's

2466
01:49:53,510 --> 01:49:51,690
fascinating to read so go and actually

2467
01:49:57,020 --> 01:49:53,520
check that up before we get ahead of

2468
01:49:59,600 --> 01:49:57,030
ourselves I gotta say you got max Egon

2469
01:50:05,660 --> 01:49:59,610
coming on he's one of my favorite necks

2470
01:50:06,670 --> 01:50:05,670
man man man what is he gonna be talkin

2471
01:50:09,470 --> 01:50:06,680
about

2472
01:50:11,660 --> 01:50:09,480
he um well you know he's such a diverse

2473
01:50:13,640 --> 01:50:11,670
character right now he's a consultant

2474
01:50:15,200 --> 01:50:13,650
for international news he's on

2475
01:50:16,970 --> 01:50:15,210
al-jazeera all the time like actually on

2476
01:50:19,130 --> 01:50:16,980
Iranian news I can't even figure out how

2477
01:50:20,930 --> 01:50:19,140
he swings at em anyway he's talking

2478
01:50:23,630 --> 01:50:20,940
about this question that's really been

2479
01:50:26,780 --> 01:50:23,640
burdening me why has our history been

2480
01:50:28,940 --> 01:50:26,790
hidden from us is it part of just

2481
01:50:30,530 --> 01:50:28,950
creating an artificial bubble for us

2482
01:50:32,990 --> 01:50:30,540
that disconnects us from our power

2483
01:50:34,490 --> 01:50:33,000
center but max has this incredible as

2484
01:50:35,870 --> 01:50:34,500
you know an incredible analytical mind

2485
01:50:38,210 --> 01:50:35,880
and he has this voice it's just like

2486
01:50:39,530 --> 01:50:38,220
medicine it just it heals my cells to

2487
01:50:42,800 --> 01:50:39,540
hear him talk he has such a pleasant

2488
01:50:44,300 --> 01:50:42,810
voice and if you were anyway remarkable

2489
01:50:47,510 --> 01:50:44,310
man incredible intelligence and he's

2490
01:50:48,980 --> 01:50:47,520
this kind of a social analyst he living

2491
01:50:50,480 --> 01:50:48,990
in Australia now there's so few people

2492
01:50:52,640 --> 01:50:50,490
here and the police and the government

2493
01:50:53,990 --> 01:50:52,650
are really quite in your face and I

2494
01:50:55,490 --> 01:50:54,000
think that technically we're all

2495
01:50:57,170 --> 01:50:55,500
subjects of the Queen so we have fewer

2496
01:50:58,640 --> 01:50:57,180
rights here and so this is one of those

2497
01:51:01,520 --> 01:50:58,650
places where you really need people like

2498
01:51:03,020 --> 01:51:01,530
max to point out when society is

2499
01:51:05,270 --> 01:51:03,030
starting to break down and what you know

2500
01:51:07,130 --> 01:51:05,280
basic human sovereignty is and there's

2501
01:51:10,580 --> 01:51:07,140
so many incredible things it's just an

2502
01:51:13,010 --> 01:51:10,590
advocate for the growth of people and in

2503
01:51:16,010 --> 01:51:13,020
this case he's bringing his considerable

2504
01:51:17,570 --> 01:51:16,020
intellect to bear on this mystery where

2505
01:51:19,150 --> 01:51:17,580
people who are actually looking at

2506
01:51:21,920 --> 01:51:19,160
ancient Egypt and looking at our past

2507
01:51:23,060 --> 01:51:21,930
see one thing but everything you hear

2508
01:51:24,980 --> 01:51:23,070
not everything most of the things you

2509
01:51:28,000 --> 01:51:24,990
hear on television in books in school

2510
01:51:31,220 --> 01:51:28,010
and academia are all creating this false

2511
01:51:34,280 --> 01:51:31,230
sense of our past that is actually quite

2512
01:51:35,330 --> 01:51:34,290
disempowering and also dis unifying I

2513
01:51:36,650 --> 01:51:35,340
know that's not a word but what's the

2514
01:51:39,620 --> 01:51:36,660
opposite of bringing people together it

2515
01:51:42,530 --> 01:51:39,630
isolates and disempowers the citizens

2516
01:51:45,320 --> 01:51:42,540
and so when you hear max dissect some of

2517
01:51:47,150 --> 01:51:45,330
these situations and just point things

2518
01:51:50,000 --> 01:51:47,160
out to you thing after thing after thing

2519
01:51:52,310 --> 01:51:50,010
about how the illusion that we live in

2520
01:51:56,030 --> 01:51:52,320
this free and intellectually free world

2521
01:51:57,380 --> 01:51:56,040
when in fact it's you know almost 180

2522
01:51:59,390 --> 01:51:57,390
degrees away from that that there's

2523
01:52:01,120 --> 01:51:59,400
sacred cow ideas they better not mess

2524
01:52:02,780 --> 01:52:01,130
with whether they're true or not and

2525
01:52:06,200 --> 01:52:02,790
anyway he just

2526
01:52:08,090 --> 01:52:06,210
that one of-a-kind Max Egan thing - a

2527
01:52:09,740 --> 01:52:08,100
lot of these subjects one of the first

2528
01:52:12,800 --> 01:52:09,750
interviews I did for magical Egypt was

2529
01:52:14,420 --> 01:52:12,810
max he just lives up the road for me he

2530
01:52:17,450 --> 01:52:14,430
used to play guitar I was Steve ID you

2531
01:52:19,850 --> 01:52:17,460
know that Max Egan played with Steve Vai

2532
01:52:22,310 --> 01:52:19,860
I didn't know yes once again you know

2533
01:52:23,780 --> 01:52:22,320
we've made 20 guitar connections tonight

2534
01:52:24,200 --> 01:52:23,790
on the show and I haven't done that in a

2535
01:52:27,950 --> 01:52:24,210
while

2536
01:52:31,790 --> 01:52:27,960
why and I know we've touched upon this

2537
01:52:36,350 --> 01:52:31,800
in the past chance but why hide our

2538
01:52:39,530 --> 01:52:36,360
history and and continue because with it

2539
01:52:41,750 --> 01:52:39,540
was easy to do 20 years ago right before

2540
01:52:42,350 --> 01:52:41,760
the Internet today that's not that kind

2541
01:52:45,860 --> 01:52:42,360
of party

2542
01:52:49,300 --> 01:52:45,870
and in yours box that's right and and we

2543
01:52:52,580 --> 01:52:49,310
have the ability now to call BS on a

2544
01:52:56,720 --> 01:52:52,590
subject on any subject why continue to

2545
01:52:58,670 --> 01:52:56,730
hide our past yeah Brad Claussen out of

2546
01:53:00,920 --> 01:52:58,680
nowhere you know no one's calling Brad

2547
01:53:03,890 --> 01:53:00,930
and asking Brad about our past he just

2548
01:53:06,050 --> 01:53:03,900
like me he's an artist he started

2549
01:53:08,330 --> 01:53:06,060
pulling the thread on this sweater and

2550
01:53:12,350 --> 01:53:08,340
it just kept unraveling and unraveling

2551
01:53:15,050 --> 01:53:12,360
and suddenly he showed the very oldest

2552
01:53:17,960 --> 01:53:15,060
human the very first works of art the

2553
01:53:19,970 --> 01:53:17,970
Venus of Willendorf and he's just weird

2554
01:53:23,480 --> 01:53:19,980
little statues that looked like a little

2555
01:53:25,880 --> 01:53:23,490
fat woman with big boobs then that

2556
01:53:27,650 --> 01:53:25,890
statue progressed over time to thousands

2557
01:53:30,890 --> 01:53:27,660
and thousands of years and it worked its

2558
01:53:33,170 --> 01:53:30,900
way into the Diana and Athena and Ishtar

2559
01:53:36,110 --> 01:53:33,180
statues Ishtar was you know the female

2560
01:53:38,360 --> 01:53:36,120
got us from Sumeria oh I want to talk

2561
01:53:39,680 --> 01:53:38,370
about that the winged a disc in Sumeria

2562
01:53:42,170 --> 01:53:39,690
by the way has a little guy in it

2563
01:53:45,730 --> 01:53:42,180
driving it around to your point that's

2564
01:53:49,910 --> 01:53:45,740
an interesting thing but anyway um sorry

2565
01:53:53,800 --> 01:53:49,920
you brought up you somehow we weaved

2566
01:53:57,320 --> 01:53:53,810
Brad Claussen into this conversation oh

2567
01:54:01,220 --> 01:53:57,330
there I wasn't even I'm I'm holding off

2568
01:54:02,450 --> 01:54:01,230
Brad for the next segment and on top of

2569
01:54:05,720 --> 01:54:02,460
that now I'm gonna throw you into the

2570
01:54:07,730 --> 01:54:05,730
bus you didn't get Brad his do he is one

2571
01:54:09,890 --> 01:54:07,740
of the most amazing artists on planet

2572
01:54:12,150 --> 01:54:09,900
Earth barn Ilias okay

2573
01:54:14,010 --> 01:54:12,160
and you can't just bring in Brad and

2574
01:54:16,530 --> 01:54:14,020
and not tell the audience who he is so

2575
01:54:19,800 --> 01:54:16,540
that's your fault and I was holding off

2576
01:54:23,790 --> 01:54:19,810
on that but so let's okay let's say Brad

2577
01:54:28,320 --> 01:54:23,800
for after after the break why is it that

2578
01:54:30,420 --> 01:54:28,330
they continue to suppress our history

2579
01:54:33,390 --> 01:54:30,430
with us what's the advantage of doing

2580
01:54:35,340 --> 01:54:33,400
that this is another one where I have to

2581
01:54:38,340 --> 01:54:35,350
tread carefully and choose my words but

2582
01:54:40,860 --> 01:54:38,350
there is this organization this

2583
01:54:42,450 --> 01:54:40,870
superstructure that is the most wealthy

2584
01:54:43,890 --> 01:54:42,460
structure in the world your rent of the

2585
01:54:44,940 --> 01:54:43,900
Vatican you're walking around the back I

2586
01:54:47,340 --> 01:54:44,950
have not

2587
01:54:48,990 --> 01:54:47,350
there is a lot of money in religion my

2588
01:54:51,630 --> 01:54:49,000
friend there's a lot of money in

2589
01:54:53,760 --> 01:54:51,640
religion and the first thing that you

2590
01:54:55,080 --> 01:54:53,770
understand the minute you make that leap

2591
01:54:57,480 --> 01:54:55,090
and you start taking the Egyptian

2592
01:54:59,430 --> 01:54:57,490
seriously and you're like well maybe the

2593
01:55:00,690 --> 01:54:59,440
people that made the pyramids might know

2594
01:55:03,120 --> 01:55:00,700
what they're talking about about this

2595
01:55:05,730 --> 01:55:03,130
other thing about consciousness and in a

2596
01:55:09,660 --> 01:55:05,740
huge way if you buy into the Egyptian

2597
01:55:10,950 --> 01:55:09,670
model you've all of a sudden have 12 you

2598
01:55:13,730 --> 01:55:10,960
you've got to pick one or the other you

2599
01:55:16,770 --> 01:55:13,740
pick the model of consciousness that

2600
01:55:18,330 --> 01:55:16,780
modern Western Christianity presents or

2601
01:55:21,030 --> 01:55:18,340
you present this other model it has a

2602
01:55:22,500 --> 01:55:21,040
very different story about what happens

2603
01:55:24,030 --> 01:55:22,510
after you die and what happens before

2604
01:55:26,310 --> 01:55:24,040
you die a very different story about the

2605
01:55:27,600 --> 01:55:26,320
role of people although you know it was

2606
01:55:29,760 --> 01:55:27,610
taught through allegory that if you look

2607
01:55:31,890 --> 01:55:29,770
at the allegories right but it's a sort

2608
01:55:33,900 --> 01:55:31,900
of game of Chinese whispers that one of

2609
01:55:35,520 --> 01:55:33,910
the things I found is almost all of the

2610
01:55:36,960 --> 01:55:35,530
sacred texts if you look at them the

2611
01:55:38,910 --> 01:55:36,970
right way and this is the case with

2612
01:55:40,590 --> 01:55:38,920
symbolism in general anything good is

2613
01:55:43,320 --> 01:55:40,600
gonna have layers of application and

2614
01:55:45,240 --> 01:55:43,330
layers of meaning so as Edie and Laird

2615
01:55:46,770 --> 01:55:45,250
point out if you look at a symbol it has

2616
01:55:48,750 --> 01:55:46,780
a biological significance it has a

2617
01:55:50,510 --> 01:55:48,760
scientific significance it as a mental a

2618
01:55:54,000 --> 01:55:50,520
psychological significance it has a

2619
01:55:56,460 --> 01:55:54,010
scientific there's the embryology so

2620
01:55:57,750 --> 01:55:56,470
there's layers of every symbol and so a

2621
01:55:59,070 --> 01:55:57,760
symbol doesn't have to in fact the

2622
01:56:01,740 --> 01:55:59,080
difference between a symbol and a sign

2623
01:56:03,450 --> 01:56:01,750
this is the science of semiotics the

2624
01:56:05,190 --> 01:56:03,460
difference between a symbol and a sign a

2625
01:56:07,440 --> 01:56:05,200
sign just means one thing you see that

2626
01:56:09,510 --> 01:56:07,450
red octagon it means one thing but when

2627
01:56:11,790 --> 01:56:09,520
you see the wing and disk it is an

2628
01:56:13,920 --> 01:56:11,800
entire college curriculum all crammed

2629
01:56:16,170 --> 01:56:13,930
into one little thing I done folding and

2630
01:56:19,200 --> 01:56:16,180
unfolding right and that's one of the

2631
01:56:20,610 --> 01:56:19,210
things that amazes me so again I'm sorry

2632
01:56:25,649 --> 01:56:20,620
I take long to answer your question but

2633
01:56:27,569 --> 01:56:25,659
I really believe that anybody who has

2634
01:56:30,870 --> 01:56:27,579
em'ly see and control of the world in

2635
01:56:33,870 --> 01:56:30,880
such a massive income stream is going to

2636
01:56:36,929 --> 01:56:33,880
cause a problem for you if you if the

2637
01:56:39,299 --> 01:56:36,939
public starts looking into alternate

2638
01:56:42,120 --> 01:56:39,309
ways of thinking about the afterlife and

2639
01:56:46,739 --> 01:56:42,130
so there are a number of people in our

2640
01:56:49,739 --> 01:56:46,749
in our symposium that are specifically

2641
01:56:52,169 --> 01:56:49,749
talking about this other model of

2642
01:56:54,270 --> 01:56:52,179
consciousness where we're not always in

2643
01:56:57,750 --> 01:56:54,280
physical bodies and that really

2644
01:57:00,000 --> 01:56:57,760
spirituality hermeticism the message of

2645
01:57:01,739 --> 01:57:00,010
Hermeticism is you are not your body you

2646
01:57:03,750 --> 01:57:01,749
are this intelligence that rides around

2647
01:57:05,939 --> 01:57:03,760
in your meat wagon but that's not you

2648
01:57:10,649 --> 01:57:05,949
you're not the meat wagon you are the

2649
01:57:12,540 --> 01:57:10,659
passenger in the carriage you don't have

2650
01:57:14,640 --> 01:57:12,550
to choose your i'll choose your words

2651
01:57:19,279 --> 01:57:14,650
for you then so what you are suggesting

2652
01:57:24,330 --> 01:57:19,289
is that if the knowledge gets out that

2653
01:57:27,409 --> 01:57:24,340
we don't need the vatican religion in

2654
01:57:29,969 --> 01:57:27,419
general that it's all been a charade

2655
01:57:32,489 --> 01:57:29,979
then well there's going to be a lot of

2656
01:57:34,850 --> 01:57:32,499
pissed-off people but also the value of

2657
01:57:37,080 --> 01:57:34,860
the church negates and shrinks a

2658
01:57:39,540 --> 01:57:37,090
substantial interruption and cash flow

2659
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that from happening you know yeah George

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Carlin said it best right when it comes

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to religion that the famous quote but

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you know that you're gonna burn in hell

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and brimstone but he needs your money

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all-knowing all-knowing has the answers

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to everything but he's broke you know

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our destiny Chad's gardener talking

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about magical Egypt at the on line

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suppose him going out for the next two

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weeks the most unbelievable

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list of presenters and guests we're

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gonna continue next with Brad Claussen

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welcome back fade to black I'm your host

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02:03:30,660 --> 02:03:28,210
Jimmy Church yes tonight chance gardener

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02:03:33,770 --> 02:03:30,670
magical Egypt the director magical Egypt

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02:03:36,240 --> 02:03:33,780
one and two another doing an online

2786
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symposium magical Egypt kicked off

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02:03:41,760 --> 02:03:39,219
yesterday October 1st and all of the

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links to the symposium are right there

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at Jimmy Church radio calm we also have

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it up in Twitter and magical Egypt calm

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all the information is there chance

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02:03:57,060 --> 02:03:54,400
that'll isn't Brad Claussen the we're

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02:03:58,530 --> 02:03:57,070
talking about obviously Pearl Jam but

2794
02:04:02,580 --> 02:03:58,540
Metallica fish

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02:04:05,070 --> 02:04:02,590
Allison chains one of the best artists

2796
02:04:06,439 --> 02:04:05,080
on the planet right this minute he's

2797
02:04:09,479 --> 02:04:06,449
working on something for Nine Inch Nails

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02:04:12,750 --> 02:04:09,489
that's what I'm talking about and his

2799
02:04:17,280 --> 02:04:12,760
his presentation that he did in magical

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02:04:19,229 --> 02:04:17,290
Egypt - absolutely floored me but if you

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02:04:21,479 --> 02:04:19,239
are going to listen to somebody talk

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02:04:24,180 --> 02:04:21,489
about art and its significance and its

2803
02:04:27,780 --> 02:04:24,190
symbolism then you have somebody like

2804
02:04:30,030 --> 02:04:27,790
Brad Claussen on and he is hands down

2805
02:04:30,890 --> 02:04:30,040
one of the great artists of our

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02:04:33,990 --> 02:04:30,900
generation

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02:04:37,350 --> 02:04:34,000
he really is when you look at his work

2808
02:04:38,880 --> 02:04:37,360
and I'm sure as a website but amazing

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02:04:40,770 --> 02:04:38,890
work he does concert posters and they're

2810
02:04:43,260 --> 02:04:40,780
just legendary and what makes him so

2811
02:04:44,430 --> 02:04:43,270
powerful is he uses esoteric symbolism I

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02:04:48,240 --> 02:04:44,440
mean that's his stock and trade

2813
02:04:50,459 --> 02:04:48,250
so it's just dripping with esotericism

2814
02:04:52,919 --> 02:04:50,469
and hermeticism and occult imagery and

2815
02:04:55,800 --> 02:04:52,929
so it's just in its hypnotic he's a

2816
02:05:00,260 --> 02:04:55,810
technical master but his use of

2817
02:05:02,910 --> 02:05:00,270
symbolism and just that raw power a

2818
02:05:04,080 --> 02:05:02,920
remarkable remarkable man and as we've

2819
02:05:05,250 --> 02:05:04,090
discussed before just I think he's

2820
02:05:10,820 --> 02:05:05,260
listening right now so I'm not gonna say

2821
02:05:14,280 --> 02:05:10,830
anything bad about him no he's

2822
02:05:15,899 --> 02:05:14,290
remarkable and was really I don't know

2823
02:05:18,720 --> 02:05:15,909
if you know this or if anybody knows

2824
02:05:20,669 --> 02:05:18,730
this but Brad was the one that talked me

2825
02:05:22,680 --> 02:05:20,679
into doing magical Egypt - John had been

2826
02:05:24,240 --> 02:05:22,690
bugging me about it for a while but you

2827
02:05:26,220 --> 02:05:24,250
know how contentious the world has got

2828
02:05:28,600 --> 02:05:26,230
and I just sometimes don't want to throw

2829
02:05:29,890 --> 02:05:28,610
my hat into the fighting ring and

2830
02:05:32,590 --> 02:05:29,900
dad was such a fan of the original

2831
02:05:34,510 --> 02:05:32,600
magical Egypt that he went with John to

2832
02:05:38,560 --> 02:05:34,520
Egypt because he was so inspired by

2833
02:05:40,720 --> 02:05:38,570
magical Egypt and he had started to

2834
02:05:42,070 --> 02:05:40,730
notice all of these things in art and he

2835
02:05:43,629 --> 02:05:42,080
didn't know what to do with it nobody

2836
02:05:46,300 --> 02:05:43,639
would take him seriously and nobody

2837
02:05:48,220 --> 02:05:46,310
would fund any research and so he came

2838
02:05:49,840 --> 02:05:48,230
to me with this series of findings that

2839
02:05:51,910 --> 02:05:49,850
we're going to talk about and it is

2840
02:05:53,080 --> 02:05:51,920
another one of those game changes this

2841
02:05:55,419 --> 02:05:53,090
should be called the game changer

2842
02:05:57,520 --> 02:05:55,429
symposium because every person here has

2843
02:05:59,410 --> 02:05:57,530
thrown a spanner in the works of

2844
02:06:02,640 --> 02:05:59,420
Egyptian allegiant ology well you know

2845
02:06:06,879 --> 02:06:02,650
you're an artist I'm an artist and it's

2846
02:06:11,200 --> 02:06:06,889
we all know as an artist when you see

2847
02:06:14,680 --> 02:06:11,210
something and you're immediately a a

2848
02:06:17,410 --> 02:06:14,690
little bit jealous of somebody's talent

2849
02:06:20,560 --> 02:06:17,420
but you also appreciate the talent and

2850
02:06:22,870 --> 02:06:20,570
you're like you know how how how does he

2851
02:06:25,899 --> 02:06:22,880
or she do this where does it come from

2852
02:06:29,140 --> 02:06:25,909
yeah you know it's the creative side but

2853
02:06:31,720 --> 02:06:29,150
then you have the technical side and and

2854
02:06:33,910 --> 02:06:31,730
the appreciation of the art and Brad if

2855
02:06:37,030 --> 02:06:33,920
you're listening you know he's just one

2856
02:06:39,160 --> 02:06:37,040
of those guys where I just went Wow okay

2857
02:06:41,590 --> 02:06:39,170
that's that's that's the real deal and

2858
02:06:43,240 --> 02:06:41,600
how where does this come from how did

2859
02:06:45,760 --> 02:06:43,250
how does he pull this off but he is uh

2860
02:06:48,700 --> 02:06:45,770
he's of that caliber he is an

2861
02:06:50,500 --> 02:06:48,710
extraordinary artist and it's good for

2862
02:06:51,820 --> 02:06:50,510
me to be around him because I you know I

2863
02:06:54,340 --> 02:06:51,830
was in Hollywood for long enough that I

2864
02:06:55,689 --> 02:06:54,350
left with well let's just say there's

2865
02:06:57,040 --> 02:06:55,699
this kind of American condition that the

2866
02:06:59,709 --> 02:06:57,050
rest of the world hates us for that was

2867
02:07:01,689 --> 02:06:59,719
just so full of ourselves and I

2868
02:07:03,189 --> 02:07:01,699
certainly was guilty of that and it's so

2869
02:07:05,229 --> 02:07:03,199
it was really good for me to be around

2870
02:07:06,490 --> 02:07:05,239
people like Brad because he's so humble

2871
02:07:08,020 --> 02:07:06,500
and you if you just met him in a train

2872
02:07:09,580 --> 02:07:08,030
station or something or stood next to

2873
02:07:11,680 --> 02:07:09,590
him in the bus line you'd never know

2874
02:07:14,290 --> 02:07:11,690
what a world-class figure he is because

2875
02:07:16,060 --> 02:07:14,300
he's just he's a genuine good and humble

2876
02:07:17,439 --> 02:07:16,070
person I think that's part of being able

2877
02:07:19,209 --> 02:07:17,449
to produce good art is you know this

2878
02:07:20,560 --> 02:07:19,219
honesty and you can reveal your heart

2879
02:07:22,689 --> 02:07:20,570
and it's not a horrible and full of

2880
02:07:24,430 --> 02:07:22,699
worms if you're a good person well it

2881
02:07:26,530 --> 02:07:24,440
comes through in your arms yeah I've got

2882
02:07:30,790 --> 02:07:26,540
to get Brad on the show but I'm gonna

2883
02:07:35,560 --> 02:07:30,800
ask you this question because he he was

2884
02:07:39,270 --> 02:07:35,570
able to see 3d through this Egyptian art

2885
02:07:41,510 --> 02:07:39,280
and and able to make these connections

2886
02:07:43,880 --> 02:07:41,520
did you discuss this with

2887
02:07:45,800 --> 02:07:43,890
them what was the what was the moment

2888
02:07:48,350 --> 02:07:45,810
where he just went holy crap okay

2889
02:07:50,510 --> 02:07:48,360
there's there's something here he found

2890
02:07:53,540 --> 02:07:50,520
a couple precedents there was there were

2891
02:07:54,710 --> 02:07:53,550
these paintings that these neurologists

2892
02:07:57,260 --> 02:07:54,720
if you look around there was this thing

2893
02:07:58,700 --> 02:07:57,270
that made a huge kind of earthquake

2894
02:07:59,210 --> 02:07:58,710
seismic ripples through the art

2895
02:08:00,680 --> 02:07:59,220
community

2896
02:08:02,600 --> 02:08:00,690
oh well through art and scientific

2897
02:08:04,520 --> 02:08:02,610
community there were there was a

2898
02:08:07,010 --> 02:08:04,530
neuroscientist he did Brad talks about

2899
02:08:10,550 --> 02:08:07,020
it in the show who started noticing in

2900
02:08:11,900 --> 02:08:10,560
one of I think was a I think it's

2901
02:08:13,790 --> 02:08:11,910
Michelangelo might you know the head

2902
02:08:15,680 --> 02:08:13,800
where God reaches had his hand and then

2903
02:08:17,000 --> 02:08:15,690
Adam reaches out his hand to God and

2904
02:08:19,850 --> 02:08:17,010
they almost touch but they don't quite

2905
02:08:21,260 --> 02:08:19,860
touch that's the Sistine Chapel isn't it

2906
02:08:26,120 --> 02:08:21,270
the ceilings on that roof of the Sistine

2907
02:08:29,420 --> 02:08:26,130
Chapel right that he that this guy mesh

2908
02:08:32,690 --> 02:08:29,430
Berger who was a brain scientist and

2909
02:08:35,210 --> 02:08:32,700
also an art aficionado notice that in

2910
02:08:36,950 --> 02:08:35,220
this Delian are no painting that God and

2911
02:08:39,500 --> 02:08:36,960
this display of this kind of cluster of

2912
02:08:45,470 --> 02:08:39,510
angels and they're all over this kidney

2913
02:08:47,210 --> 02:08:45,480
shaped red background and the the fabric

2914
02:08:49,430 --> 02:08:47,220
that it's on has these really

2915
02:08:51,410 --> 02:08:49,440
characteristic wrinkles and folds in it

2916
02:08:53,330 --> 02:08:51,420
and there's little angels and Sophia the

2917
02:08:55,640 --> 02:08:53,340
personage of Sophia coming you know is

2918
02:08:57,380 --> 02:08:55,650
in the arm of God and then God has

2919
02:09:00,740 --> 02:08:57,390
stretched across this thing and where

2920
02:09:02,300 --> 02:09:00,750
gods Wang is where the regenerative area

2921
02:09:07,300 --> 02:09:02,310
probably go to hell for saying gods wing

2922
02:09:15,770 --> 02:09:10,280
yes we we know what you're talking about

2923
02:09:18,560 --> 02:09:15,780
a chance so Brad first started noticing

2924
02:09:20,000 --> 02:09:18,570
that and started noticing and in da

2925
02:09:22,010 --> 02:09:20,010
Vinci and and all the people who were

2926
02:09:24,290 --> 02:09:22,020
rumored to be part of the secret society

2927
02:09:26,860 --> 02:09:24,300
they all seem to be paying homage to the

2928
02:09:29,660 --> 02:09:26,870
fact that the ancients somehow knew

2929
02:09:32,090 --> 02:09:29,670
exactly the architecture of the brain so

2930
02:09:33,290 --> 02:09:32,100
it wasn't even a starting point I think

2931
02:09:34,940 --> 02:09:33,300
that was something that he found to

2932
02:09:36,410 --> 02:09:34,950
validate himself after he started making

2933
02:09:39,680 --> 02:09:36,420
these discoveries but as I was

2934
02:09:40,760 --> 02:09:39,690
mentioning he found venus de milo and

2935
02:09:43,010 --> 02:09:40,770
not being the smile of the Venus of

2936
02:09:45,170 --> 02:09:43,020
Willendorf which is this thing that is

2937
02:09:46,430 --> 02:09:45,180
lives by orthodox people there are

2938
02:09:48,020 --> 02:09:46,440
people who say this is about sixty

2939
02:09:50,210 --> 02:09:48,030
thousand years old this sculpture and

2940
02:09:52,050 --> 02:09:50,220
the traditional story about it was that

2941
02:09:54,870 --> 02:09:52,060
it's just this

2942
02:09:56,310 --> 02:09:54,880
toda mystic thing and maybe you know

2943
02:09:57,780 --> 02:09:56,320
early pornography because it's just a

2944
02:09:59,490 --> 02:09:57,790
kind of it looks like a fat woman with

2945
02:10:01,650 --> 02:09:59,500
two giant breasts except she doesn't

2946
02:10:04,320 --> 02:10:01,660
have a face in her head is this big knob

2947
02:10:08,970 --> 02:10:04,330
with a bunch of kind of nipples all over

2948
02:10:11,189 --> 02:10:08,980
it and art history majors will trace the

2949
02:10:12,780 --> 02:10:11,199
evolution of statuary from the Venus of

2950
02:10:15,300 --> 02:10:12,790
Willendorf which is a very crude thing

2951
02:10:20,760 --> 02:10:15,310
all the way through to these statues of

2952
02:10:24,150 --> 02:10:20,770
Diana Ishtar and there's another sheet

2953
02:10:26,100 --> 02:10:24,160
are and I think that sculpture like one

2954
02:10:27,959 --> 02:10:26,110
of the like the original one that you're

2955
02:10:32,640 --> 02:10:27,969
talking about I think that's in a Pope's

2956
02:10:34,800 --> 02:10:32,650
office Wow in the British Museum there's

2957
02:10:36,180 --> 02:10:34,810
a big giant wall where she's standing

2958
02:10:39,360 --> 02:10:36,190
there so what you'll see in all these

2959
02:10:41,640 --> 02:10:39,370
statues is that her torso their torsos

2960
02:10:43,650 --> 02:10:41,650
are very pronounced and from about the

2961
02:10:46,200 --> 02:10:43,660
waist up covered in these weird nipples

2962
02:10:47,850 --> 02:10:46,210
and some in one case but the way they

2963
02:10:50,220 --> 02:10:47,860
hold their hands up they do this weird

2964
02:10:51,750 --> 02:10:50,230
kind of Ronnie James do you know that

2965
02:10:53,459 --> 02:10:51,760
trying to give you a trot Constance will

2966
02:10:55,950 --> 02:10:53,469
hold your hands up and make the devil

2967
02:10:57,209 --> 02:10:55,960
sign yeah I know the girls the the women

2968
02:10:59,010 --> 02:10:57,219
in these statues are all holding their

2969
02:11:02,310 --> 02:10:59,020
arms up it's sort of an uncomfortable

2970
02:11:04,320 --> 02:11:02,320
angle in a position and what Brad

2971
02:11:06,000 --> 02:11:04,330
noticed the stock-in-trade in an artist

2972
02:11:08,180 --> 02:11:06,010
by the way is their right hemisphere and

2973
02:11:10,229 --> 02:11:08,190
the right hemisphere is involved in

2974
02:11:12,330 --> 02:11:10,239
matching things like I noticed this

2975
02:11:14,850 --> 02:11:12,340
shape is the same shape as this or I

2976
02:11:16,320 --> 02:11:14,860
noticed that this cluster of symbols is

2977
02:11:19,140 --> 02:11:16,330
the same from this unrelated thing

2978
02:11:20,790 --> 02:11:19,150
artists really are good at recognizing

2979
02:11:22,410 --> 02:11:20,800
similarities and patterns because that's

2980
02:11:25,530 --> 02:11:22,420
like that's the muscle we work all day

2981
02:11:29,610 --> 02:11:25,540
and so Brad started noticing that in

2982
02:11:31,560 --> 02:11:29,620
these famous statues they literally they

2983
02:11:32,850 --> 02:11:31,570
depict the brainstem and the way that

2984
02:11:34,470 --> 02:11:32,860
they stand and the way that their hands

2985
02:11:37,650 --> 02:11:34,480
are if you look at a human brain stem

2986
02:11:38,910 --> 02:11:37,660
next to this statue it is it's another

2987
02:11:40,919 --> 02:11:38,920
one of those moments where you just he

2988
02:11:42,000 --> 02:11:40,929
can't even argue with it and it explains

2989
02:11:44,070 --> 02:11:42,010
all these things that art historians

2990
02:11:45,660 --> 02:11:44,080
never understood like didn't the

2991
02:11:47,250 --> 02:11:45,670
ancients know how many nipples a woman

2992
02:11:48,540 --> 02:11:47,260
had or didn't they know that this wasn't

2993
02:11:52,200 --> 02:11:48,550
correct or they don't have giant

2994
02:11:53,640 --> 02:11:52,210
shoulders like this and what he shows is

2995
02:11:55,350 --> 02:11:53,650
those statues that have really big

2996
02:11:57,540 --> 02:11:55,360
shoulders and overdeveloped hips it's

2997
02:12:00,529 --> 02:11:57,550
the brainstem and the thalamus at the

2998
02:12:02,990 --> 02:12:00,539
top these two big heavy lobes

2999
02:12:05,540 --> 02:12:03,000
if you look at the show or watch Brad's

3000
02:12:08,600 --> 02:12:05,550
presentation you'll see these visuals

3001
02:12:11,240 --> 02:12:08,610
where this is a perfect representation

3002
02:12:12,890 --> 02:12:11,250
of not just an important brain

3003
02:12:14,419 --> 02:12:12,900
architecture but the part of the brain

3004
02:12:16,490 --> 02:12:14,429
architecture that's responsible for

3005
02:12:18,350 --> 02:12:16,500
consciousness and the only way that we

3006
02:12:21,529 --> 02:12:18,360
can have these visionary or religious or

3007
02:12:25,390 --> 02:12:21,539
spiritual experiences is because of this

3008
02:12:29,000 --> 02:12:25,400
core part of the brain the hip

3009
02:12:30,830 --> 02:12:29,010
diencephalon and the brain stem which is

3010
02:12:33,770 --> 02:12:30,840
the lizard brain of the art complex and

3011
02:12:36,560 --> 02:12:33,780
that seems to be where these really

3012
02:12:40,720 --> 02:12:36,570
powerful spiritual experiences the whole

3013
02:12:43,339 --> 02:12:40,730
Kundalini mechanism take place and so

3014
02:12:45,890 --> 02:12:43,349
one of the premises in magical Egypt was

3015
02:12:47,839 --> 02:12:45,900
this idea of didactic art that art in

3016
02:12:49,490 --> 02:12:47,849
the past isn't used the way we use it

3017
02:12:52,700 --> 02:12:49,500
art in the past was didactic or

3018
02:12:55,220 --> 02:12:52,710
educational and so it again raises the

3019
02:12:57,229 --> 02:12:55,230
question who was knew this and who was

3020
02:12:58,370 --> 02:12:57,239
trying to teach this to who but in the

3021
02:13:01,040 --> 02:12:58,380
statuary that Brad found not only

3022
02:13:03,649 --> 02:13:01,050
defined that all of these well the brain

3023
02:13:05,120 --> 02:13:03,659
stem in particular and this very

3024
02:13:07,310 --> 02:13:05,130
important thing at the top of the

3025
02:13:09,080 --> 02:13:07,320
brainstem called the diencephalon where

3026
02:13:10,549 --> 02:13:09,090
the pineal gland the pituitary and the

3027
02:13:12,740 --> 02:13:10,559
thalamus is that's where the third eye

3028
02:13:13,939 --> 02:13:12,750
is that all the cultures revere and you

3029
02:13:15,890 --> 02:13:13,949
know the reason that hindus where that

3030
02:13:17,359 --> 02:13:15,900
bindi point on their forehead to

3031
02:13:19,160 --> 02:13:17,369
celebrate the fact that this is the

3032
02:13:20,899 --> 02:13:19,170
center of consciousness and this is

3033
02:13:23,180 --> 02:13:20,909
where our spirituality comes from and so

3034
02:13:26,149 --> 02:13:23,190
it's another one of those examples of

3035
02:13:28,250 --> 02:13:26,159
where in the modern day we'll see a work

3036
02:13:30,529 --> 02:13:28,260
of art and we don't we think art is to

3037
02:13:32,000 --> 02:13:30,539
you know cover up space on the motel

3038
02:13:34,040 --> 02:13:32,010
room when you're Houghton and Howard

3039
02:13:35,600 --> 02:13:34,050
Johnsons or you know I need something to

3040
02:13:37,939 --> 02:13:35,610
put on my mantelpiece that makes it not

3041
02:13:40,040 --> 02:13:37,949
seem so empty and for us art serves a

3042
02:13:42,859 --> 02:13:40,050
fundamentally different function but in

3043
02:13:46,189 --> 02:13:42,869
the past art was used to uplift humanity

3044
02:13:48,890 --> 02:13:46,199
and apparently they knew not only the

3045
02:13:51,589 --> 02:13:48,900
articulations of the stem but there's a

3046
02:13:54,439 --> 02:13:51,599
famous papyrus it's called the Ed Smith

3047
02:13:57,620 --> 02:13:54,449
papyrus Edwin Smith and weave and it is

3048
02:13:59,149 --> 02:13:57,630
this papyrus that shows areas of the

3049
02:14:00,589 --> 02:13:59,159
brain and what they're responsible for

3050
02:14:02,839 --> 02:14:00,599
so it's another thing that Egyptology

3051
02:14:05,180 --> 02:14:02,849
absolutely denies that in fact a lot of

3052
02:14:07,430 --> 02:14:05,190
people think say even very progressive

3053
02:14:09,740 --> 02:14:07,440
people insist that the Egyptians didn't

3054
02:14:11,330 --> 02:14:09,750
know what the brain was for and here we

3055
02:14:13,189 --> 02:14:11,340
have not only always schematics of the

3056
02:14:13,790 --> 02:14:13,199
brain my discovery of the pylon that

3057
02:14:15,890 --> 02:14:13,800
shows you

3058
02:14:17,750 --> 02:14:15,900
maps out exactly the articulations of

3059
02:14:19,939 --> 02:14:17,760
the brain right but that this Edwin

3060
02:14:21,410 --> 02:14:19,949
Smith papyrus from you know is it's

3061
02:14:23,000 --> 02:14:21,420
famous and everyone knows about it it

3062
02:14:24,859 --> 02:14:23,010
specifically says if someone can't move

3063
02:14:27,290 --> 02:14:24,869
their right leg it's this part of the

3064
02:14:30,379 --> 02:14:27,300
brain if you know your sinuses are and

3065
02:14:32,660 --> 02:14:30,389
so it's easily provable that they

3066
02:14:34,430 --> 02:14:32,670
absolutely understood the brain at least

3067
02:14:35,990 --> 02:14:34,440
as well as we do and there's that whole

3068
02:14:38,540 --> 02:14:36,000
important thing that modern science the

3069
02:14:40,250 --> 02:14:38,550
state cannot tell you what consciousness

3070
02:14:41,810 --> 02:14:40,260
is but where consciousness comes from

3071
02:14:43,339 --> 02:14:41,820
you don't know what the pineal glands

3072
02:14:44,899 --> 02:14:43,349
for they know it's involved in certain

3073
02:14:46,220 --> 02:14:44,909
things Rick Strassman is actually the

3074
02:14:48,620 --> 02:14:46,230
one that's made more progress than just

3075
02:14:50,120 --> 02:14:48,630
about anybody I know but you see in

3076
02:14:52,569 --> 02:14:50,130
statuary that the statuary is

3077
02:14:56,510 --> 02:14:52,579
communicating this highly technical

3078
02:14:59,209 --> 02:14:56,520
scientific information in this way that

3079
02:15:04,040 --> 02:14:59,219
is beautiful I mean just absolutely

3080
02:15:05,629 --> 02:15:04,050
beautiful the the creation of Adam you

3081
02:15:06,770 --> 02:15:05,639
know on the ceiling of the Sistine

3082
02:15:11,000 --> 02:15:06,780
Chapel

3083
02:15:14,479 --> 02:15:11,010
I remember Brad again you know I I hold

3084
02:15:16,669 --> 02:15:14,489
him guilty for this because now I see

3085
02:15:19,640 --> 02:15:16,679
the brain and the outline and the brain

3086
02:15:22,040 --> 02:15:19,650
and the brainstem all over the place it

3087
02:15:23,680 --> 02:15:22,050
is something that you can't escape and

3088
02:15:26,859 --> 02:15:23,690
it's certainly something that the

3089
02:15:30,169 --> 02:15:26,869
Egyptians were not only cognizant of but

3090
02:15:33,649 --> 02:15:30,179
clearly wanted to represent and show us

3091
02:15:35,930 --> 02:15:33,659
what was going on but where God is and

3092
02:15:37,729 --> 02:15:35,940
the Sistine Chapel with with Adam you

3093
02:15:41,689 --> 02:15:37,739
know they're holding out there almost

3094
02:15:44,240 --> 02:15:41,699
touching their fingers God is in the

3095
02:15:46,160 --> 02:15:44,250
middle of a brain that's exactly what's

3096
02:15:49,760 --> 02:15:46,170
going on there most people are gonna see

3097
02:15:53,870 --> 02:15:49,770
like you you mentioned material or

3098
02:15:57,500 --> 02:15:53,880
draping material or velvet or whatever

3099
02:16:01,010 --> 02:15:57,510
it is but it's yeah but it's not it's

3100
02:16:03,350 --> 02:16:01,020
the brain and so where God is where his

3101
02:16:05,330 --> 02:16:03,360
hand is I for a while while I was making

3102
02:16:08,240 --> 02:16:05,340
the show I knew all these terms for all

3103
02:16:09,770 --> 02:16:08,250
the parts of the brain but um where the

3104
02:16:11,120 --> 02:16:09,780
woman comes out there's a baby and

3105
02:16:12,589 --> 02:16:11,130
there's a woman the woman is Sophia and

3106
02:16:14,089 --> 02:16:12,599
Sophia is the embodiment of wisdom

3107
02:16:17,540 --> 02:16:14,099
that's where that word philosophy comes

3108
02:16:19,580 --> 02:16:17,550
from it means the love of Sophia she

3109
02:16:21,919 --> 02:16:19,590
comes she basically if you take a brain

3110
02:16:24,229 --> 02:16:21,929
and overlay that over that painting she

3111
02:16:26,959 --> 02:16:24,239
is where the thalamus is there's a baby

3112
02:16:28,580 --> 02:16:26,969
that has this weird it's kind of a weird

3113
02:16:30,470 --> 02:16:28,590
posture and it's next to this wrinkle

3114
02:16:31,879 --> 02:16:30,480
yes where the occipital lobe is in the

3115
02:16:34,580 --> 02:16:31,889
brain the occipital lobe is kind of this

3116
02:16:36,259 --> 02:16:34,590
weird spongy bit that's different that's

3117
02:16:38,209 --> 02:16:36,269
separated from the brain that's

3118
02:16:39,919 --> 02:16:38,219
indicated the thalamus the pineal the

3119
02:16:42,709 --> 02:16:39,929
pituitary are indicated in the major

3120
02:16:44,750 --> 02:16:42,719
vessels the third and fourth ventricle

3121
02:16:46,280 --> 02:16:44,760
are extremely important both in the

3122
02:16:48,950 --> 02:16:46,290
hallucinogenic process and the Kundalini

3123
02:16:50,299 --> 02:16:48,960
process and hypnagogic state and

3124
02:16:52,099 --> 02:16:50,309
dreaming and whatnot so that's all

3125
02:16:53,780 --> 02:16:52,109
depicted there but that's actually a

3126
02:16:59,589 --> 02:16:53,790
fairly modern

3127
02:17:04,040 --> 02:16:59,599
found there was another painting the oh

3128
02:17:06,700 --> 02:17:04,050
the something of Christ where Christ is

3129
02:17:09,379 --> 02:17:06,710
standing on a hill and he's upright and

3130
02:17:11,120 --> 02:17:09,389
there's a cloud over him and oddly

3131
02:17:13,700 --> 02:17:11,130
enough it's the cloud that Terry Gilliam

3132
02:17:15,259 --> 02:17:13,710
used when God talks his body Python

3133
02:17:16,639 --> 02:17:15,269
right to that cloud it's the cloud from

3134
02:17:21,770 --> 02:17:16,649
that painting right and so this thing

3135
02:17:23,089 --> 02:17:21,780
has kind of a how do I explain it when

3136
02:17:25,549 --> 02:17:23,099
you just when you step back and look at

3137
02:17:27,650 --> 02:17:25,559
this painting or what we did is when you

3138
02:17:29,360 --> 02:17:27,660
take actual drawings of the brain and

3139
02:17:34,570 --> 02:17:29,370
spinal column and you put it over this

3140
02:17:37,219 --> 02:17:34,580
painting the clouds form the two

3141
02:17:40,879 --> 02:17:37,229
hemispheres the Jesus figure in the

3142
02:17:43,040 --> 02:17:40,889
middle is the brainstem God Himself is

3143
02:17:45,290 --> 02:17:43,050
positioned at the place of the third eye

3144
02:17:46,490 --> 02:17:45,300
and these clouds so Brad saw that and it

3145
02:17:47,959 --> 02:17:46,500
was another one of those like he'd said

3146
02:17:49,669 --> 02:17:47,969
once you see it you see it everywhere

3147
02:17:51,650 --> 02:17:49,679
once you understand the key and then all

3148
02:17:53,120 --> 02:17:51,660
kinds of things speak to you but what he

3149
02:17:54,379 --> 02:17:53,130
discovered that it would never occurred

3150
02:17:55,160 --> 02:17:54,389
to me and this is where it ties into

3151
02:17:57,200 --> 02:17:55,170
ancient Egypt

3152
02:17:59,990 --> 02:17:57,210
there's a very characteristic like

3153
02:18:01,520 --> 02:18:00,000
iconic statue Ram statue if you anybody

3154
02:18:03,410 --> 02:18:01,530
who's ever been to Karnak in Egypt you

3155
02:18:05,780 --> 02:18:03,420
visit the temple by going through this

3156
02:18:08,990 --> 02:18:05,790
hall of these very beautiful rams and

3157
02:18:11,209 --> 02:18:09,000
the rams their chin rests on this little

3158
02:18:13,070 --> 02:18:11,219
man who's standing there and he has kind

3159
02:18:15,500 --> 02:18:13,080
of a pronounced torso and his legs come

3160
02:18:17,330 --> 02:18:15,510
together and he's under the chin of the

3161
02:18:20,150 --> 02:18:17,340
RAM so if you look at this Ram from the

3162
02:18:23,000 --> 02:18:20,160
front Rams have that interesting winos

3163
02:18:24,650 --> 02:18:23,010
like dogs and moose and and seals and

3164
02:18:28,490 --> 02:18:24,660
stuff have this nose it's kind of a why

3165
02:18:30,650 --> 02:18:28,500
and and then the ram's horns come out to

3166
02:18:33,200 --> 02:18:30,660
the side and they curve so when you take

3167
02:18:34,849 --> 02:18:33,210
that ram head and superimpose it on the

3168
02:18:37,070 --> 02:18:34,859
statue or you superimpose it on the

3169
02:18:38,620 --> 02:18:37,080
brain it is another one of those things

3170
02:18:40,540 --> 02:18:38,630
that this art

3171
02:18:41,860 --> 02:18:40,550
the RAM when you look at it but when you

3172
02:18:44,049 --> 02:18:41,870
actually look at the outline of it it is

3173
02:18:47,049 --> 02:18:44,059
the perfect outline of the hemispheres

3174
02:18:49,209 --> 02:18:47,059
and the RAM and the RAM snout is the

3175
02:18:50,830 --> 02:18:49,219
corpus callosum and then this little man

3176
02:18:52,660 --> 02:18:50,840
standing under the chin of the round

3177
02:18:55,810 --> 02:18:52,670
that the Rams chin is resting on is

3178
02:18:59,589 --> 02:18:55,820
another brainstem like the Ishtar and

3179
02:19:02,410 --> 02:18:59,599
Diana statues and so even in Egypt way

3180
02:19:04,810 --> 02:19:02,420
before you know whatever period produced

3181
02:19:06,429 --> 02:19:04,820
of Ishtar well contemporary with Ishtar

3182
02:19:09,759 --> 02:19:06,439
actually because I was from Sumeria

3183
02:19:13,540 --> 02:19:09,769
Babylonian that this thing is a perfect

3184
02:19:15,580 --> 02:19:13,550
reproduction of the brainstem and to the

3185
02:19:17,560 --> 02:19:15,590
point where on the little man under the

3186
02:19:19,330 --> 02:19:17,570
RAM the uraeus that comes out of his

3187
02:19:21,730 --> 02:19:19,340
head is exactly where the infundibulum

3188
02:19:23,950 --> 02:19:21,740
is and if you look at every feature on

3189
02:19:25,419 --> 02:19:23,960
this sculpture it exactly corresponds to

3190
02:19:30,129 --> 02:19:25,429
some significant part of the brainstem

3191
02:19:32,459 --> 02:19:30,139
and so this is I'm sure at least a

3192
02:19:35,110 --> 02:19:32,469
decade of research on Brad's part

3193
02:19:36,750 --> 02:19:35,120
showing that not only was there

3194
02:19:39,160 --> 02:19:36,760
understanding of the brain really

3195
02:19:41,049 --> 02:19:39,170
complete and in some cases more advanced

3196
02:19:42,730 --> 02:19:41,059
than our own but the thing that

3197
02:19:44,980 --> 02:19:42,740
impresses me so much and that really

3198
02:19:47,589 --> 02:19:44,990
appeals to all artists is that they

3199
02:19:49,750 --> 02:19:47,599
managed to present this technical

3200
02:19:51,310 --> 02:19:49,760
schematic in a way that was so beautiful

3201
02:19:52,740 --> 02:19:51,320
it was so beautiful and it works on its

3202
02:19:54,790 --> 02:19:52,750
own as a work of art that nobody even

3203
02:19:56,290 --> 02:19:54,800
considered the possibility that this

3204
02:19:58,630 --> 02:19:56,300
thing was actually expressing this

3205
02:20:00,790 --> 02:19:58,640
really important scientific principle so

3206
02:20:03,730 --> 02:20:00,800
where do we go in the next sohe's were

3207
02:20:06,340 --> 02:20:03,740
actually culminating the series - with

3208
02:20:09,130 --> 02:20:06,350
the where Brad's work leads - which is

3209
02:20:11,290 --> 02:20:09,140
it's basically this thing that alerts

3210
02:20:13,600 --> 02:20:11,300
you to what we know of as the third eye

3211
02:20:16,480 --> 02:20:13,610
and this imperative that every human has

3212
02:20:19,060 --> 02:20:16,490
to stop being externally focused all the

3213
02:20:21,429 --> 02:20:19,070
time and to start doing this very simple

3214
02:20:23,469 --> 02:20:21,439
series of meditations and activities and

3215
02:20:24,969 --> 02:20:23,479
and as you've done recently you got to

3216
02:20:26,320 --> 02:20:24,979
start paying attention to the vehicle

3217
02:20:28,210 --> 02:20:26,330
and you can't have a bunch of crap you

3218
02:20:30,969 --> 02:20:28,220
don't put molasses in your car you know

3219
02:20:32,200 --> 02:20:30,979
if you want to drink drink all you want

3220
02:20:34,060 --> 02:20:32,210
but if you want to have a spiritual

3221
02:20:36,190 --> 02:20:34,070
experience you're pining a blend doesn't

3222
02:20:38,920 --> 02:20:36,200
work when you're drinking alcohol so all

3223
02:20:40,540 --> 02:20:38,930
of these things that seem like just

3224
02:20:43,300 --> 02:20:40,550
boring they're actually necessary steps

3225
02:20:45,400 --> 02:20:43,310
in creating the alchemical ethanol or

3226
02:20:47,110 --> 02:20:45,410
you know the chemical test tube is your

3227
02:20:49,360 --> 02:20:47,120
body you are the alchemical test-tube

3228
02:20:51,730 --> 02:20:49,370
and the reason why that's so important

3229
02:20:52,400 --> 02:20:51,740
is that your body has to your body can

3230
02:20:53,750 --> 02:20:52,410
either detract

3231
02:20:55,250 --> 02:20:53,760
from your brain or add to your brain

3232
02:20:57,980 --> 02:20:55,260
depending on how healthy you are and how

3233
02:21:00,650 --> 02:20:57,990
clean your bloodstream is and also on

3234
02:21:03,261 --> 02:21:00,660
that other weird issue that instead of

3235
02:21:05,060 --> 02:21:03,271
expending your sexuality you know that

3236
02:21:07,070 --> 02:21:05,070
metaphor of manna from heaven you get

3237
02:21:09,860 --> 02:21:07,080
this certain allowance every day of this

3238
02:21:12,350 --> 02:21:09,870
life force and if you don't expend it to

3239
02:21:13,910 --> 02:21:12,360
make children or whatever it stays in

3240
02:21:17,600 --> 02:21:13,920
you and it has a secondary purpose where

3241
02:21:21,170 --> 02:21:17,610
it starts it catalyzes this change in

3242
02:21:22,820 --> 02:21:21,180
your bloodstream that supercharges your

3243
02:21:25,190 --> 02:21:22,830
brain and your pineal gland and these

3244
02:21:26,091 --> 02:21:25,200
spiritual things so the message of

3245
02:21:27,650 --> 02:21:26,101
ancient Egypt

3246
02:21:30,520 --> 02:21:27,660
Brad was one of the first people to make

3247
02:21:33,560 --> 02:21:30,530
it so explicit that in these sculptures

3248
02:21:36,261 --> 02:21:33,570
specifically point to the parts of your

3249
02:21:39,530 --> 02:21:36,271
brain that are changeable and all of

3250
02:21:41,000 --> 02:21:39,540
those mythical properties of

3251
02:21:44,020 --> 02:21:41,010
consciousness that seemed like you know

3252
02:21:46,370 --> 02:21:44,030
supernatural stories like empathy and

3253
02:21:47,960 --> 02:21:46,380
the ability to read people's minds or

3254
02:21:51,950 --> 02:21:47,970
the ability to buy locater just the

3255
02:21:53,780 --> 02:21:51,960
simple very understandable goal of

3256
02:21:57,770 --> 02:21:53,790
regeneration so you live to be you know

3257
02:22:00,350 --> 02:21:57,780
crazy ages all of these Sciences are

3258
02:22:02,810 --> 02:22:00,360
contained in just understanding the yoga

3259
02:22:04,460 --> 02:22:02,820
of building up this magnetic field or

3260
02:22:08,030 --> 02:22:04,470
amplifying light as the Freemason say

3261
02:22:10,070 --> 02:22:08,040
it's all about this inner light so you

3262
02:22:13,070 --> 02:22:10,080
know the halos that were around holy

3263
02:22:14,360 --> 02:22:13,080
figures and old art and the Indians you

3264
02:22:16,790 --> 02:22:14,370
know they wear that headdress that fans

3265
02:22:19,070 --> 02:22:16,800
out from their head right the Japanese

3266
02:22:21,650 --> 02:22:19,080
Rising Sun flag all of these things the

3267
02:22:25,610 --> 02:22:21,660
show emanating light are all symbolic of

3268
02:22:27,200 --> 02:22:25,620
this this process whereby you can they

3269
02:22:30,470 --> 02:22:27,210
call it opening your third eye and it

3270
02:22:32,030 --> 02:22:30,480
has a much more scientific it's based in

3271
02:22:34,160 --> 02:22:32,040
science it's not just a crazy New Age

3272
02:22:36,080 --> 02:22:34,170
stuff but that is really the point of

3273
02:22:37,940 --> 02:22:36,090
yoga the really ancient yoga the

3274
02:22:40,370 --> 02:22:37,950
pedantic yoga and the Vedantic sciences

3275
02:22:42,950 --> 02:22:40,380
it's not just to get your body clean and

3276
02:22:45,020 --> 02:22:42,960
operational but then further to do the

3277
02:22:46,250 --> 02:22:45,030
same thing to these brain centers that

3278
02:22:47,600 --> 02:22:46,260
we have control over just like you can

3279
02:22:49,881 --> 02:22:47,610
build up your pecks or you can lose

3280
02:22:51,650 --> 02:22:49,891
weight you know you can build up these

3281
02:22:53,600 --> 02:22:51,660
brain centers by doing these traditional

3282
02:22:57,860 --> 02:22:53,610
exercises and Egypt tells you how to do

3283
02:23:01,460 --> 02:22:57,870
them and did you know frogs did you know

3284
02:23:04,460 --> 02:23:01,470
that frogs have third eyes really

3285
02:23:08,570 --> 02:23:04,470
vestigial I know birds do to know

3286
02:23:11,210 --> 02:23:08,580
a bunch of reptiles I did it I did the

3287
02:23:15,490 --> 02:23:11,220
list a couple of weeks ago on the show

3288
02:23:19,460 --> 02:23:15,500
but but functioning third eyes Wow

3289
02:23:23,030 --> 02:23:19,470
absolutely absolute amount to be to ask

3290
02:23:24,979 --> 02:23:23,040
you about the Platypus what about it I

3291
02:23:27,380 --> 02:23:24,989
don't know I don't know but now they're

3292
02:23:32,590 --> 02:23:27,390
showing videos I think it was more about

3293
02:23:37,429 --> 02:23:35,120
George Carlin joke now I made the

3294
02:23:38,809 --> 02:23:37,439
connection that's the platypus is an

3295
02:23:40,760 --> 02:23:38,819
example of God sense of humor

3296
02:23:44,929 --> 02:23:40,770
that's hilarious they're showing videos

3297
02:23:49,580 --> 02:23:44,939
on Twitter right now but yeah the whole

3298
02:23:52,040 --> 02:23:49,590
list of of reptiles and animals with

3299
02:23:55,280 --> 02:23:52,050
third eyes a functioning like you know

3300
02:23:57,440 --> 02:23:55,290
and and we had it we just let it go I

3301
02:24:00,250 --> 02:23:57,450
wanted to ask you before we head to the

3302
02:24:04,519 --> 02:24:00,260
break there is so much talk about the

3303
02:24:06,979 --> 02:24:04,529
calcification and the degradation of the

3304
02:24:11,990 --> 02:24:06,989
pineal gland and what do you think

3305
02:24:16,550 --> 02:24:12,000
actually caused it in that I mean we we

3306
02:24:18,229 --> 02:24:16,560
we obviously used it it's there and and

3307
02:24:20,330 --> 02:24:18,239
there's you know there's so much talk

3308
02:24:22,700 --> 02:24:20,340
about you know getting it back going and

3309
02:24:24,260 --> 02:24:22,710
and what we can do about but but what

3310
02:24:27,139 --> 02:24:24,270
what caused it

3311
02:24:29,179 --> 02:24:27,149
I have answer this there's actually two

3312
02:24:29,960 --> 02:24:29,189
things I'm one of them surprisingly came

3313
02:24:32,960 --> 02:24:29,970
from Rick Strassman

3314
02:24:35,500 --> 02:24:32,970
when Thomas Edison did us the incredible

3315
02:24:37,700 --> 02:24:35,510
favor of creating artificial light

3316
02:24:42,019 --> 02:24:37,710
humanity before light and even before

3317
02:24:44,360 --> 02:24:42,029
fire you're the amount of time you spend

3318
02:24:47,330 --> 02:24:44,370
around a light source has a huge effect

3319
02:24:52,250 --> 02:24:47,340
on your pineal gland and so when we went

3320
02:24:54,950 --> 02:24:52,260
from caves to candles just an artificial

3321
02:24:56,719 --> 02:24:54,960
light of any kind starts making stay up

3322
02:24:58,580 --> 02:24:56,729
later but exposure to light has this

3323
02:25:00,080 --> 02:24:58,590
effect on your pineal gland the more

3324
02:25:02,269 --> 02:25:00,090
light you're around the smaller your

3325
02:25:04,010 --> 02:25:02,279
pineal gland is for some reason and it's

3326
02:25:06,139 --> 02:25:04,020
an interesting side story that this guy

3327
02:25:08,690 --> 02:25:06,149
mantequilla that's a kind of tantric

3328
02:25:10,219 --> 02:25:08,700
energy worker and the Egyptian mystery

3329
02:25:11,660 --> 02:25:10,229
schools if you were an initiate in the

3330
02:25:13,370 --> 02:25:11,670
Egyptian mystery schools there was a

3331
02:25:15,240 --> 02:25:13,380
very necessary thing you had to spend

3332
02:25:17,670 --> 02:25:15,250
five years underground

3333
02:25:19,830 --> 02:25:17,680
in the dark which just seems weird and

3334
02:25:24,030 --> 02:25:19,840
punitive until you realize that

3335
02:25:26,970 --> 02:25:24,040
mantequilla you know lots of other

3336
02:25:29,400 --> 02:25:26,980
people but now Rick Strassman just said

3337
02:25:31,170 --> 02:25:29,410
this thing same thing again as soon as

3338
02:25:32,670 --> 02:25:31,180
humans started hanging around these

3339
02:25:34,740 --> 02:25:32,680
environments where there's perpetual

3340
02:25:36,390 --> 02:25:34,750
24-hour light and then artificial light

3341
02:25:38,310 --> 02:25:36,400
which is much brighter our pine oil

3342
02:25:39,750 --> 02:25:38,320
gland has been shrinking since the

3343
02:25:41,670 --> 02:25:39,760
invention of the light bulb and it's

3344
02:25:44,100 --> 02:25:41,680
been shrinking since our use of fire but

3345
02:25:45,810 --> 02:25:44,110
the light bulb but hugely accelerated it

3346
02:25:48,600 --> 02:25:45,820
and then the other one is almost a

3347
02:25:50,760 --> 02:25:48,610
tropism fluoride fluoride in the water

3348
02:25:53,730 --> 02:25:50,770
absolutely calcifies your party line and

3349
02:25:55,740 --> 02:25:53,740
shuts down your radio you know alcohol

3350
02:25:59,220 --> 02:25:55,750
if you ever want to stop being psychic

3351
02:26:01,860 --> 02:25:59,230
instantly take shot of alcohol really oh

3352
02:26:07,350 --> 02:26:01,870
man instantly don't ever die when you're

3353
02:26:11,760 --> 02:26:07,360
drunk by the way that's interesting

3354
02:26:13,830 --> 02:26:11,770
because we've all heard you know your

3355
02:26:16,200 --> 02:26:13,840
your life flashes you know you have this

3356
02:26:21,230 --> 02:26:16,210
adrenaline rush the Pam dramatic life

3357
02:26:24,840 --> 02:26:21,240
review right and that adrenaline rush

3358
02:26:29,150 --> 02:26:24,850
which is normally attributed to all of

3359
02:26:32,400 --> 02:26:29,160
this is probably the massive dose of DMT

3360
02:26:34,560 --> 02:26:32,410
being spit out by the pineal gland from

3361
02:26:36,780 --> 02:26:34,570
that adrenaline rush and that's the life

3362
02:26:39,960 --> 02:26:36,790
review that you get it's from DMT not

3363
02:26:42,030 --> 02:26:39,970
from adrenaline and so how cruel if it

3364
02:26:44,670 --> 02:26:42,040
was done on purpose and how horrific it

3365
02:26:46,680 --> 02:26:44,680
was done accidentally that every day we

3366
02:26:48,390 --> 02:26:46,690
owe and refined sugar to every day that

3367
02:26:49,500 --> 02:26:48,400
we're consuming this chemical in our

3368
02:26:51,900 --> 02:26:49,510
water this is a whole other conversation

3369
02:26:54,300 --> 02:26:51,910
and it sounds like a conspiracy theory

3370
02:26:55,380 --> 02:26:54,310
so a lot of people can I was surprised

3371
02:26:57,030 --> 02:26:55,390
at Rick Strassman didn't know about

3372
02:26:58,920 --> 02:26:57,040
piney lied just before he went on the

3373
02:27:01,200 --> 02:26:58,930
thing I showed him there's much of

3374
02:27:04,230 --> 02:27:01,210
youtube's by really credentialed doctors

3375
02:27:07,350 --> 02:27:04,240
it's not in contest it's not contested

3376
02:27:09,360 --> 02:27:07,360
that fluoride in the water so if you're

3377
02:27:12,360 --> 02:27:09,370
drinking city water do yourself a favor

3378
02:27:14,370 --> 02:27:12,370
and start you know buying bottled water

3379
02:27:16,350 --> 02:27:14,380
in a glass because there are some things

3380
02:27:18,180 --> 02:27:16,360
that actually affect it's like being

3381
02:27:19,890 --> 02:27:18,190
castrated on a spiritual level

3382
02:27:22,580 --> 02:27:19,900
the calcification of the pineal gland

3383
02:27:25,110 --> 02:27:22,590
the pineal gland at puberty

3384
02:27:27,360 --> 02:27:25,120
substantially reduces and then when your

3385
02:27:28,620 --> 02:27:27,370
sexual time is over it comes back on so

3386
02:27:30,480 --> 02:27:28,630
old people they're probably

3387
02:27:32,400 --> 02:27:30,490
Glan comes back the reason kids are so

3388
02:27:33,360 --> 02:27:32,410
psychic you know kids are reading the

3389
02:27:35,010 --> 02:27:33,370
minds of their parents almost

3390
02:27:36,900 --> 02:27:35,020
perpetually it's just part of biology

3391
02:27:39,420 --> 02:27:36,910
and their pine gland is huge and you

3392
02:27:40,620 --> 02:27:39,430
know like a it's good and operational

3393
02:27:41,490 --> 02:27:40,630
when you're young and then for some

3394
02:27:42,810 --> 02:27:41,500
reason - puberty

3395
02:27:43,950 --> 02:27:42,820
whether you're around light whether

3396
02:27:45,630 --> 02:27:43,960
you've ever had sugar whether you've

3397
02:27:48,810 --> 02:27:45,640
ever had fluoride your Pinal clan just

3398
02:27:52,410 --> 02:27:48,820
gets smaller but this the point of this

3399
02:27:53,940 --> 02:27:52,420
work is to build it up like a muscle and

3400
02:27:57,150 --> 02:27:53,950
there's combinations of meditation

3401
02:27:59,760 --> 02:27:57,160
practices and and other stuff retention

3402
02:28:01,650 --> 02:27:59,770
exercises that are literally is the

3403
02:28:03,090 --> 02:28:01,660
thing that you do it's a yoga

3404
02:28:06,510 --> 02:28:03,100
specifically for your pineal gland

3405
02:28:09,090 --> 02:28:06,520
that'll bring it back online and if you

3406
02:28:10,830 --> 02:28:09,100
oh at this point let me just interject

3407
02:28:12,120 --> 02:28:10,840
something another really important part

3408
02:28:13,620 --> 02:28:12,130
of magical Egypt is the difference

3409
02:28:16,260 --> 02:28:13,630
between these two words operative and

3410
02:28:17,520 --> 02:28:16,270
speculative a lot of Egyptology just

3411
02:28:18,900 --> 02:28:17,530
like masonry has those two terms

3412
02:28:20,790 --> 02:28:18,910
speculative means you talk about

3413
02:28:23,130 --> 02:28:20,800
something and you study it operative

3414
02:28:24,510 --> 02:28:23,140
means you do it okay so right I'm gonna

3415
02:28:26,070 --> 02:28:24,520
stop you right there we're gonna take a

3416
02:28:28,560 --> 02:28:26,080
break we're gonna go into overtime

3417
02:28:30,719 --> 02:28:28,570
because this is too important we got to

3418
02:28:31,380 --> 02:28:30,729
go right there okay so now I know you're

3419
02:28:34,350 --> 02:28:31,390
busy

3420
02:28:35,760 --> 02:28:34,360
you've got the symposium but I've got to

3421
02:28:37,650 --> 02:28:35,770
keep you for a few more minutes so we're

3422
02:28:41,490 --> 02:28:37,660
gonna do that chance don't go anywhere

3423
02:28:43,260 --> 02:28:41,500
magical Egypt chance Gardner the magical

3424
02:28:45,330 --> 02:28:43,270
Egypt symposium everything is right

3425
02:28:47,400 --> 02:28:45,340
there at magical Egypt com of course we

3426
02:28:50,370 --> 02:28:47,410
have it up in Twitter and over at Jimmy

3427
02:28:52,290 --> 02:28:50,380
Church radio calm we will continue where

3428
02:28:53,340 --> 02:28:52,300
we are leaving off right after this

3429
02:29:12,810 --> 02:28:53,350
short play stay with us

3430
02:29:16,000 --> 02:29:12,820
[Music]

3431
02:29:16,630 --> 02:29:16,010
and you are listen to my boy Jimmy

3432
02:29:25,180 --> 02:29:16,640
Church

3433
02:29:36,360 --> 02:29:25,190
opinion reading a book will not make you

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02:29:38,950 --> 02:29:36,370
smarter hurricanes earthquakes wildfires

3435
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this year we've experienced more than

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to make sure my family does not have to

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[Music]

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02:33:40,821 --> 02:33:38,331
what a great show tonight chance Gardner

3513
02:33:43,071 --> 02:33:40,831
magical Egypt the symposium is going on

3514
02:33:45,831 --> 02:33:43,081
right now it started yesterday almost

3515
02:33:49,940 --> 02:33:45,841
two straight weeks of the absolutely

3516
02:33:51,831 --> 02:33:49,950
best of the best and now

3517
02:33:56,480 --> 02:33:51,841
chance right before the break what were

3518
02:33:59,841 --> 02:33:56,490
we talking about really important terms

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02:34:01,751 --> 02:33:59,851
they're terms from Freemasonry their

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02:34:03,770 --> 02:34:01,761
operative and speculative right

3521
02:34:05,961 --> 02:34:03,780
speculative means that you study

3522
02:34:07,371 --> 02:34:05,971
something from afar you read statistics

3523
02:34:09,980 --> 02:34:07,381
about it you talk to other people about

3524
02:34:12,890 --> 02:34:09,990
it you study it you watch it operative

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02:34:15,650 --> 02:34:12,900
means you dive in and you do it so you

3526
02:34:17,331 --> 02:34:15,660
can learn statistics about baseball or

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02:34:19,220 --> 02:34:17,341
you can play baseball you can learn

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02:34:23,150 --> 02:34:19,230
about every famous conductor or you can

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02:34:24,440 --> 02:34:23,160
pick up a violin and try and play the

3530
02:34:27,081 --> 02:34:24,450
reason why it's such an important

3531
02:34:28,970 --> 02:34:27,091
masonic term is that this is another one

3532
02:34:31,220 --> 02:34:28,980
of those secrets to really approaching

3533
02:34:32,571 --> 02:34:31,230
ancient egypt that you can think about

3534
02:34:34,430 --> 02:34:32,581
it you can talk about it you can study

3535
02:34:36,291 --> 02:34:34,440
it from afar but it's not meant for that

3536
02:34:38,360 --> 02:34:36,301
this is an activity book this is

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02:34:41,150 --> 02:34:38,370
something that you do and it tells you

3538
02:34:43,461 --> 02:34:41,160
things you do it directly relates to you

3539
02:34:46,911 --> 02:34:43,471
it's not a bunch of pointless historical

3540
02:34:49,161 --> 02:34:46,921
nonsense this might be thought of as an

3541
02:34:50,661 --> 02:34:49,171
instruction manual or sometimes we even

3542
02:34:52,671 --> 02:34:50,671
toy with the idea that this is the

3543
02:34:53,781 --> 02:34:52,681
long-lost owner's manual that doesn't it

3544
02:34:55,730 --> 02:34:53,791
seem weird that you have such a

3545
02:34:57,671 --> 02:34:55,740
complicated machine and nobody's ever

3546
02:35:01,031 --> 02:34:57,681
given you an owner's manual for it and

3547
02:35:04,610 --> 02:35:01,041
Egypt is that thing and it's not just

3548
02:35:08,331 --> 02:35:04,620
it's not just a bunch of random ideas

3549
02:35:10,520 --> 02:35:08,341
this is operative this is this gives you

3550
02:35:12,591 --> 02:35:10,530
the tools to actually change yourself

3551
02:35:14,841 --> 02:35:12,601
and achieve these states of mind that

3552
02:35:16,520 --> 02:35:14,851
are on display in Egypt it wasn't just a

3553
02:35:19,251 --> 02:35:16,530
time bound thing that only people in the

3554
02:35:21,261 --> 02:35:19,261
past could be smart it's this thing that

3555
02:35:23,150 --> 02:35:21,271
you can work towards like yoga or like

3556
02:35:26,631 --> 02:35:23,160
martial arts or like bodybuilding only

3557
02:35:29,091 --> 02:35:26,641
it's this psycho-spiritual series of

3558
02:35:31,041 --> 02:35:29,101
activities let's we've only got a little

3559
02:35:32,600 --> 02:35:31,051
bit of time left and we've got so many

3560
02:35:35,631 --> 02:35:32,610
other presenters that I want to touch

3561
02:35:37,011 --> 02:35:35,641
upon that are amazing like Becca and oh

3562
02:35:39,560 --> 02:35:37,021
good on you Becca tarnis

3563
02:35:41,631 --> 02:35:39,570
yeah he's Beckett harness and now is she

3564
02:35:43,730 --> 02:35:41,641
gonna be discussing religion what is she

3565
02:35:45,171 --> 02:35:43,740
gonna do well she's there's a very

3566
02:35:47,870 --> 02:35:45,181
interesting thing that we've talked

3567
02:35:51,769 --> 02:35:50,059
in Episode three we talk about this

3568
02:35:53,630 --> 02:35:51,779
state called the hypnagogic state Oh

3569
02:35:58,659 --> 02:35:53,640
another extremely hip person in the show

3570
02:36:01,609 --> 02:35:58,669
Gary Lachlan who was an amazing artist

3571
02:36:03,620 --> 02:36:01,619
amazing author nowadays and it's just

3572
02:36:05,210 --> 02:36:03,630
fascinating person but he started this

3573
02:36:08,149 --> 02:36:05,220
conversation about the hypnagogic state

3574
02:36:09,529 --> 02:36:08,159
a hypnagogic state is another one of

3575
02:36:11,420 --> 02:36:09,539
those things and it ties right into

3576
02:36:15,649 --> 02:36:11,430
operative we've been on a roll with the

3577
02:36:17,899 --> 02:36:15,659
transitions today there is this room

3578
02:36:19,969 --> 02:36:17,909
that you can't physically walk into but

3579
02:36:21,529 --> 02:36:19,979
you're always in it this room is up in

3580
02:36:22,969 --> 02:36:21,539
your head and you think that

3581
02:36:24,739 --> 02:36:22,979
consciousness is just this one room you

3582
02:36:26,120 --> 02:36:24,749
live in but then you notice there's this

3583
02:36:28,189 --> 02:36:26,130
little door and if you walk through that

3584
02:36:29,989 --> 02:36:28,199
door there's all these other floors and

3585
02:36:32,120 --> 02:36:29,999
wings and halls of consciousness that

3586
02:36:35,029 --> 02:36:32,130
most people don't really understand so

3587
02:36:39,260 --> 02:36:35,039
way back there was a scientist /

3588
02:36:41,479 --> 02:36:39,270
theologian named Swedenborg who started

3589
02:36:43,099 --> 02:36:41,489
noticing that in the in the transition

3590
02:36:44,929 --> 02:36:43,109
between waking and sleeping there was

3591
02:36:48,019 --> 02:36:44,939
this special state of consciousness that

3592
02:36:49,969 --> 02:36:48,029
was called the hypnagogic state so

3593
02:36:52,489 --> 02:36:49,979
Swedenborg and then later Carl Jung

3594
02:36:55,159 --> 02:36:52,499
there was this guy Wilson Van Dusen and

3595
02:36:57,500 --> 02:36:55,169
a lot of Indian people yeah Jung Jung

3596
02:37:00,080 --> 02:36:57,510
famously said you know my life changed

3597
02:37:01,969 --> 02:37:00,090
when I found the door yeah well isn't

3598
02:37:03,199 --> 02:37:01,979
that true I didn't realize that but one

3599
02:37:04,939 --> 02:37:03,209
of the first thing I say in every

3600
02:37:06,439 --> 02:37:04,949
episode of magical Egypt is there's a

3601
02:37:08,540 --> 02:37:06,449
door in your head that nobody told you

3602
02:37:09,920 --> 02:37:08,550
about and that's just that symbolism of

3603
02:37:11,449 --> 02:37:09,930
the door and that is exactly it you've

3604
02:37:13,309 --> 02:37:11,459
there's this door you walk through and

3605
02:37:15,469 --> 02:37:13,319
it shows you first of all that your

3606
02:37:18,080 --> 02:37:15,479
consciousness is not completely your own

3607
02:37:19,550 --> 02:37:18,090
you start in this room that is entirely

3608
02:37:21,949 --> 02:37:19,560
your consciousness but if you start

3609
02:37:23,059 --> 02:37:21,959
looking through all the batcaves and you

3610
02:37:24,769 --> 02:37:23,069
know start looking in the cupboards

3611
02:37:27,139 --> 02:37:24,779
you'll find secret passageways that lead

3612
02:37:30,199 --> 02:37:27,149
to these places where it seems to be

3613
02:37:32,599 --> 02:37:30,209
common ground where we all meet in this

3614
02:37:35,540 --> 02:37:32,609
psychic sense and it feels like a dream

3615
02:37:37,550 --> 02:37:35,550
world only very much like the DMT

3616
02:37:39,260 --> 02:37:37,560
experience it seems to have an objective

3617
02:37:40,519 --> 02:37:39,270
reality it's just this place you go

3618
02:37:43,040 --> 02:37:40,529
where you have to leave your body behind

3619
02:37:45,260 --> 02:37:43,050
so this ties into the afterlife

3620
02:37:47,000 --> 02:37:45,270
experience it ties very much into the

3621
02:37:49,069 --> 02:37:47,010
spirituality of the ancient Egyptians

3622
02:37:51,590 --> 02:37:49,079
and when they would leave their body and

3623
02:37:52,969 --> 02:37:51,600
communicate with the gods and you know

3624
02:37:54,620 --> 02:37:52,979
we've all had these experiences where do

3625
02:37:56,809 --> 02:37:54,630
you sleep in a little too late or as

3626
02:37:58,909 --> 02:37:56,819
you're falling to sleep things happen in

3627
02:38:01,160 --> 02:37:58,919
your brain like I often notice I can see

3628
02:38:02,960 --> 02:38:01,170
my room in 360 degrees I

3629
02:38:04,420 --> 02:38:02,970
just see where my eyes go but in the

3630
02:38:07,910 --> 02:38:04,430
hypnagogic state you have this kind of

3631
02:38:11,000 --> 02:38:07,920
360-degree view a lot of artists use it

3632
02:38:12,830 --> 02:38:11,010
as you send young it part of the killer'

3633
02:38:14,420 --> 02:38:12,840
modern psychology was that young had

3634
02:38:16,580 --> 02:38:14,430
this experience and so the thing they

3635
02:38:19,880 --> 02:38:16,590
all say that makes it so weird is there

3636
02:38:21,590 --> 02:38:19,890
are people that are not you that live in

3637
02:38:24,050 --> 02:38:21,600
this space and so you can go and you can

3638
02:38:25,520 --> 02:38:24,060
talk to them or interact with them in

3639
02:38:29,170 --> 02:38:25,530
some way and it seems like they're not

3640
02:38:31,640 --> 02:38:29,180
really there but several of these modern

3641
02:38:34,040 --> 02:38:31,650
psychiatrists studying this Wilson Van

3642
02:38:35,000 --> 02:38:34,050
Dusen in particular when people would

3643
02:38:36,170 --> 02:38:35,010
come in and they seem to be

3644
02:38:38,120 --> 02:38:36,180
schizophrenic and they're hearing voices

3645
02:38:40,880 --> 02:38:38,130
he was the first one to go well tell me

3646
02:38:42,830 --> 02:38:40,890
what the voices are saying and what he

3647
02:38:44,240 --> 02:38:42,840
realized was that this person came in

3648
02:38:46,429 --> 02:38:44,250
that had schizophrenia they had maybe a

3649
02:38:48,830 --> 02:38:46,439
fourth or fifth grade education and they

3650
02:38:51,140 --> 02:38:48,840
were talking about this incredibly

3651
02:38:52,610 --> 02:38:51,150
erudite aspect of physics or engineering

3652
02:38:54,830 --> 02:38:52,620
or something with this person had no way

3653
02:38:56,570 --> 02:38:54,840
of knowing but the first psychologist

3654
02:38:58,610 --> 02:38:56,580
that actually took seriously that maybe

3655
02:39:00,230 --> 02:38:58,620
this person is connected to something

3656
02:39:02,360 --> 02:39:00,240
that is talking to them maybe these are

3657
02:39:04,130 --> 02:39:02,370
real voices and he starts talking to the

3658
02:39:06,710 --> 02:39:04,140
voices as if they're real people and

3659
02:39:08,360 --> 02:39:06,720
some of them would demonstrate their

3660
02:39:09,260 --> 02:39:08,370
authenticity by saying okay well in

3661
02:39:11,360 --> 02:39:09,270
three days there's gonna be an

3662
02:39:13,490 --> 02:39:11,370
earthquake talk to me then or that they

3663
02:39:15,380 --> 02:39:13,500
know these principles of science or

3664
02:39:17,750 --> 02:39:15,390
details about history that the patient

3665
02:39:19,340 --> 02:39:17,760
had no way of knowing and so this weird

3666
02:39:21,530 --> 02:39:19,350
thing that almost nobody wanted to talk

3667
02:39:23,420 --> 02:39:21,540
about it that the hypnagogic state like

3668
02:39:25,310 --> 02:39:23,430
the DMT state and perhaps like the

3669
02:39:26,929 --> 02:39:25,320
afterlife state involves your

3670
02:39:29,450 --> 02:39:26,939
consciousness leaving your body and

3671
02:39:30,950 --> 02:39:29,460
going to someplace maybe not physical or

3672
02:39:32,780 --> 02:39:30,960
just you know maybe like the TV model

3673
02:39:36,260 --> 02:39:32,790
it's just a couple of channels away from

3674
02:39:40,190 --> 02:39:36,270
where we live right now but so Beckett

3675
02:39:42,679 --> 02:39:40,200
artist is talking about the hypnagogic

3676
02:39:44,450 --> 02:39:42,689
state and the imaginal realm and she

3677
02:39:46,010 --> 02:39:44,460
found this amazing thing speaking of the

3678
02:39:48,950 --> 02:39:46,020
possibility of this being an objective

3679
02:39:53,750 --> 02:39:48,960
thing when she was young her father was

3680
02:39:55,760 --> 02:39:53,760
a very famous psychiatrist and she got

3681
02:39:58,280 --> 02:39:55,770
her PhD in philosophy and religion at

3682
02:40:00,770 --> 02:39:58,290
California Institute of integral studies

3683
02:40:02,660 --> 02:40:00,780
so she's very educated and very astute

3684
02:40:04,490 --> 02:40:02,670
herself but when she was young she was

3685
02:40:06,950 --> 02:40:04,500
reading something by junior Tolkien you

3686
02:40:08,150 --> 02:40:06,960
know the Hobbit guy told him and at the

3687
02:40:10,070 --> 02:40:08,160
same time she'd just bought this

3688
02:40:11,690 --> 02:40:10,080
beautiful copy of the red book for young

3689
02:40:12,890 --> 02:40:11,700
for her father and the reason she bought

3690
02:40:14,420 --> 02:40:12,900
it for him is cuz she wanted to read it

3691
02:40:15,120 --> 02:40:14,430
and she didn't have the money to read it

3692
02:40:17,969 --> 02:40:15,130
so she something

3693
02:40:19,530 --> 02:40:17,979
I don't wanna I don't want to complicate

3694
02:40:23,070 --> 02:40:19,540
things with incorrect details but anyway

3695
02:40:25,620 --> 02:40:23,080
she did a comparison of tokens writing

3696
02:40:26,700 --> 02:40:25,630
with young and what she'd realized is

3697
02:40:30,150 --> 02:40:26,710
they're both talking about the same

3698
02:40:32,700 --> 02:40:30,160
place the same citizens the same kind of

3699
02:40:35,400 --> 02:40:32,710
dynamics even the same topography and

3700
02:40:39,570 --> 02:40:35,410
she started comparing and it became

3701
02:40:41,810 --> 02:40:39,580
scary how many similarities young when

3702
02:40:44,670 --> 02:40:41,820
he was exploring his hypnagogic state

3703
02:40:46,590 --> 02:40:44,680
Tolkien who was smart enough to not

3704
02:40:48,450 --> 02:40:46,600
present it as fact but just said there's

3705
02:40:50,219 --> 02:40:48,460
this mythical realm that is like this

3706
02:40:52,440 --> 02:40:50,229
but it turns out this realm is

3707
02:40:55,139 --> 02:40:52,450
incredibly accurate description of this

3708
02:40:56,910 --> 02:40:55,149
place that might actually exist so if we

3709
02:40:58,950 --> 02:40:56,920
break out of that you know modern

3710
02:41:01,050 --> 02:40:58,960
Western conditioning to the idea that

3711
02:41:03,420 --> 02:41:01,060
your consciousness in your body aren't

3712
02:41:06,510 --> 02:41:03,430
necessarily always you know locked

3713
02:41:09,540 --> 02:41:06,520
together then you start to understand a

3714
02:41:10,740 --> 02:41:09,550
lot more about the Egyptian practices

3715
02:41:13,139 --> 02:41:10,750
and the things that we think about now

3716
02:41:14,910 --> 02:41:13,149
is astral travel and some of that stuff

3717
02:41:16,050 --> 02:41:14,920
that you know makes eyes roll but it

3718
02:41:19,139 --> 02:41:16,060
seems to be a legitimate part of

3719
02:41:20,550 --> 02:41:19,149
consciousness and if you go operative if

3720
02:41:22,980 --> 02:41:20,560
you stop thinking about it and you start

3721
02:41:24,990 --> 02:41:22,990
actually exploring your consciousness

3722
02:41:27,960 --> 02:41:25,000
you'll find that it leads to some places

3723
02:41:29,670 --> 02:41:27,970
that might explain the idea of the

3724
02:41:31,050 --> 02:41:29,680
collective conscience how the zeitgeist

3725
02:41:33,090 --> 02:41:31,060
held there's certain things that we just

3726
02:41:35,100 --> 02:41:33,100
all know all of a sudden and it's

3727
02:41:37,260 --> 02:41:35,110
because part of our consciousness is our

3728
02:41:40,020 --> 02:41:37,270
own but in a way that's hard to put into

3729
02:41:41,730 --> 02:41:40,030
words we have this kind of connection or

3730
02:41:45,990 --> 02:41:41,740
this common pool of consciousness as

3731
02:41:49,170 --> 02:41:46,000
well that we all draw from and so Beca

3732
02:41:51,090 --> 02:41:49,180
is talking about that and it's just the

3733
02:41:55,020 --> 02:41:51,100
most interesting and sort of just so

3734
02:41:56,580 --> 02:41:55,030
ripe with magical overtones more than

3735
02:41:59,580 --> 02:41:56,590
you think there's a reason why it's

3736
02:42:02,370 --> 02:41:59,590
called middle-earth yeah

3737
02:42:04,730 --> 02:42:02,380
no seriously and we gotta talk about

3738
02:42:07,040 --> 02:42:04,740
Richard corsaro

3739
02:42:09,389 --> 02:42:07,050
we're sitting here talking about doors

3740
02:42:15,810 --> 02:42:09,399
and we don't bring up Richard Knight

3741
02:42:20,100 --> 02:42:15,820
right now his his research again

3742
02:42:23,040 --> 02:42:20,110
everybody that is speaking at the

3743
02:42:26,100 --> 02:42:23,050
symposium for you are all game changers

3744
02:42:26,490 --> 02:42:26,110
but Richard corsaro is one of those cats

3745
02:42:30,710 --> 02:42:26,500
man

3746
02:42:33,660 --> 02:42:30,720
and that his research is absolutely

3747
02:42:36,420 --> 02:42:33,670
game-changing and methought about

3748
02:42:38,460 --> 02:42:36,430
Richard what we're talking about is that

3749
02:42:41,220 --> 02:42:38,470
I bring it up all the time about the

3750
02:42:43,920 --> 02:42:41,230
cultures around this planet where

3751
02:42:46,760 --> 02:42:43,930
everything is transoceanic somehow the

3752
02:42:49,140 --> 02:42:46,770
communication is there something is

3753
02:42:51,930 --> 02:42:49,150
universal whether it's one teacher

3754
02:42:57,630 --> 02:42:51,940
teaching everybody I don't know but

3755
02:43:00,360 --> 02:42:57,640
Richards research into this is if you if

3756
02:43:03,270 --> 02:43:00,370
you want proof what more can you ask for

3757
02:43:06,990 --> 02:43:03,280
them what Richard brings forward pan

3758
02:43:08,670 --> 02:43:07,000
cultural and it's it's funny to me

3759
02:43:09,960 --> 02:43:08,680
because it's just like magnets clicking

3760
02:43:12,750 --> 02:43:09,970
together I meet these people and I just

3761
02:43:14,460 --> 02:43:12,760
in the weirdest most removed way and we

3762
02:43:16,200 --> 02:43:14,470
just click and the Richards another one

3763
02:43:20,190 --> 02:43:16,210
those people he's just such a nice kind

3764
02:43:22,470 --> 02:43:20,200
man anyway and he

3765
02:43:24,420 --> 02:43:22,480
you know he's not like a he's not

3766
02:43:26,610 --> 02:43:24,430
overbearing he's not intense he's not

3767
02:43:28,140 --> 02:43:26,620
laser-like he's a perfectly normal good

3768
02:43:30,240 --> 02:43:28,150
person you hang out have a beer with him

3769
02:43:32,400 --> 02:43:30,250
but and his work is presented in that

3770
02:43:36,330 --> 02:43:32,410
same way it's conversational and it's

3771
02:43:38,700 --> 02:43:36,340
it's it's very important but it's just

3772
02:43:41,670 --> 02:43:38,710
so easy to understand visual so well

3773
02:43:43,530 --> 02:43:41,680
yeah and exactly because it's visual he

3774
02:43:45,990 --> 02:43:43,540
doesn't it doesn't require faith on your

3775
02:43:47,040 --> 02:43:46,000
part he just shows you this thing that

3776
02:43:48,930 --> 02:43:47,050
is related to what we were talking about

3777
02:43:50,700 --> 02:43:48,940
to try and this Holly triad pioneer

3778
02:43:52,830 --> 02:43:50,710
glance thalamus and pituitary that make

3779
02:43:55,140 --> 02:43:52,840
up the third eye is Brahma Vishnu and

3780
02:43:56,970 --> 02:43:55,150
Shiva it's Jesus God and the Holy Spirit

3781
02:43:59,670 --> 02:43:56,980
it's it's a core of every religion you

3782
02:44:02,490 --> 02:43:59,680
find this triad of entities that is the

3783
02:44:04,110 --> 02:44:02,500
external reflection of this triad in us

3784
02:44:06,000 --> 02:44:04,120
that's responsible for consciousness so

3785
02:44:08,010 --> 02:44:06,010
kisara shows all over the world there's

3786
02:44:10,950 --> 02:44:08,020
a certain architectural feature that

3787
02:44:13,410 --> 02:44:10,960
pays homage to that these triplets are

3788
02:44:14,610 --> 02:44:13,420
triptychs he calls them tremendous just

3789
02:44:16,740 --> 02:44:14,620
the start of it but he keeps there's

3790
02:44:18,990 --> 02:44:16,750
just so much that he does that it shows

3791
02:44:21,720 --> 02:44:19,000
there's as you said there seems to have

3792
02:44:24,990 --> 02:44:21,730
been a previous civilization that was a

3793
02:44:26,970 --> 02:44:25,000
global civilization because when you

3794
02:44:28,620 --> 02:44:26,980
start look if you just take modern

3795
02:44:30,560 --> 02:44:28,630
Western Christianity out of the mix and

3796
02:44:34,710 --> 02:44:30,570
again I'm not here to bash anybody but a

3797
02:44:36,900 --> 02:44:34,720
lot of the most ancient cultures all are

3798
02:44:38,130 --> 02:44:36,910
basically saying the same thing and

3799
02:44:39,270 --> 02:44:38,140
they've all been misunderstood it's sort

3800
02:44:40,320 --> 02:44:39,280
of in the same way but if you go to the

3801
02:44:42,270 --> 02:44:40,330
actual bedrock

3802
02:44:45,780 --> 02:44:42,280
the symbolism of all of these different

3803
02:44:48,570 --> 02:44:45,790
spiritual systems you'll find those

3804
02:44:51,179 --> 02:44:48,580
tenants reflected in the architecture

3805
02:44:53,130 --> 02:44:51,189
and so the a lot of the things we're

3806
02:44:55,200 --> 02:44:53,140
talking about weren't unique to Egypt

3807
02:44:58,559 --> 02:44:55,210
they were just traits of the ancient

3808
02:45:01,230 --> 02:44:58,569
world and kisara is one of those people

3809
02:45:03,090 --> 02:45:01,240
that shows you that there's this message

3810
02:45:05,219 --> 02:45:03,100
from the past and every single culture

3811
02:45:06,870 --> 02:45:05,229
it was clearly their most important most

3812
02:45:09,719 --> 02:45:06,880
cherished idea because every single

3813
02:45:11,250 --> 02:45:09,729
culture erected these monuments and this

3814
02:45:13,230 --> 02:45:11,260
is not easy this is not a casual thing

3815
02:45:14,910 --> 02:45:13,240
building these temples to such exact

3816
02:45:17,340 --> 02:45:14,920
measurements and incorporating the

3817
02:45:19,920 --> 02:45:17,350
symbolism into all of them and he just

3818
02:45:23,940 --> 02:45:19,930
shows in his way is unassailable way

3819
02:45:25,620 --> 02:45:23,950
that not only was this idea system in

3820
02:45:27,750 --> 02:45:25,630
place but that the in town you know the

3821
02:45:29,040 --> 02:45:27,760
intellect of the past were so snobbish

3822
02:45:30,300 --> 02:45:29,050
nowadays thinking that were so much

3823
02:45:33,690 --> 02:45:30,310
smarter than we were in the past and

3824
02:45:35,190 --> 02:45:33,700
kisara presents this evidence that the

3825
02:45:36,780 --> 02:45:35,200
question isn't why were they so smart

3826
02:45:38,460 --> 02:45:36,790
it's more why are we so stupid and

3827
02:45:39,750 --> 02:45:38,470
there's a promise in that that we can

3828
02:45:41,550 --> 02:45:39,760
get back to the intelligence that we

3829
02:45:43,290 --> 02:45:41,560
used to have and the architecture oddly

3830
02:45:49,440 --> 02:45:43,300
enough tells you how to do that well

3831
02:45:51,960 --> 02:45:49,450
when we if he if he presented the top of

3832
02:45:53,820 --> 02:45:51,970
a Mayan pyramid for instance right with

3833
02:45:58,110 --> 02:45:53,830
with three entrances with three doors

3834
02:46:00,300 --> 02:45:58,120
yes and and had a very convincing story

3835
02:46:02,820 --> 02:46:00,310
and the mythology behind it and the

3836
02:46:06,599 --> 02:46:02,830
religion behind it in the gods and you

3837
02:46:09,270 --> 02:46:06,609
know what that's awesome but it's it's

3838
02:46:11,490 --> 02:46:09,280
it's it's in Central America South

3839
02:46:17,309 --> 02:46:11,500
America it's in Egypt it's in Asia it's

3840
02:46:18,750 --> 02:46:17,319
in Greece it's every it's the Orkney

3841
02:46:23,849 --> 02:46:18,760
Islands I don't care

3842
02:46:27,150 --> 02:46:23,859
oh yeah right right it's everywhere yes

3843
02:46:29,550 --> 02:46:27,160
there's that it comes to a point when

3844
02:46:32,190 --> 02:46:29,560
you're you're looking at this I don't

3845
02:46:34,200 --> 02:46:32,200
know why it is something that is

3846
02:46:36,540 --> 02:46:34,210
generally not talked about and missed

3847
02:46:39,150 --> 02:46:36,550
but it's right there in our faces and

3848
02:46:42,410 --> 02:46:39,160
you can find it on every continent and

3849
02:46:45,770 --> 02:46:42,420
in every in every country every culture

3850
02:46:47,940 --> 02:46:45,780
yeah in fact it's an interesting art

3851
02:46:50,910 --> 02:46:47,950
project if you really want to understand

3852
02:46:52,860 --> 02:46:50,920
art and develop your eye you know an art

3853
02:46:53,880 --> 02:46:52,870
direction is like the visual motif of

3854
02:46:56,099 --> 02:46:53,890
something like when you

3855
02:46:57,540 --> 02:46:56,109
at mexican temples there's this motif or

3856
02:46:59,099 --> 02:46:57,550
this art direction that's different than

3857
02:47:00,540 --> 02:46:59,109
Asian and Asian is different than

3858
02:47:03,979 --> 02:47:00,550
Egyptian and Egyptian is different than

3859
02:47:06,420 --> 02:47:03,989
Babylonian so the art the the

3860
02:47:09,269 --> 02:47:06,430
presentation the aesthetics change from

3861
02:47:11,550 --> 02:47:09,279
culture to culture but the structure and

3862
02:47:13,649 --> 02:47:11,560
the symbolism stay the same it's direct

3863
02:47:17,250 --> 02:47:13,659
its direct and the changes are actually

3864
02:47:19,439 --> 02:47:17,260
subtle yeah right but the you're

3865
02:47:24,630 --> 02:47:19,449
absolutely right the foundation is very

3866
02:47:27,269 --> 02:47:24,640
direct very direct I wanted to I wanted

3867
02:47:30,030 --> 02:47:27,279
to talk about Arthur really quick to as

3868
02:47:32,429 --> 02:47:30,040
well I'm sure I know ma'am we're out of

3869
02:47:34,439 --> 02:47:32,439
time okay you know what let's just get

3870
02:47:37,320 --> 02:47:34,449
straight to Arthur I wanted to I wanted

3871
02:47:39,899 --> 02:47:37,330
to backpedal a little bit but let's go

3872
02:47:44,210 --> 02:47:39,909
and we're you know this is there you

3873
02:47:47,340 --> 02:47:44,220
touched upon this that the list here is

3874
02:47:50,219 --> 02:47:47,350
the foundation is also intellectuals I

3875
02:47:53,340 --> 02:47:50,229
mean professional intellectuals how were

3876
02:47:56,250 --> 02:47:53,350
you able to get this list together

3877
02:47:58,769 --> 02:47:56,260
and are you researching everything I

3878
02:48:01,200 --> 02:47:58,779
mean are you reading their books and

3879
02:48:03,450 --> 02:48:01,210
stuff yeah I mean that is a lot of work

3880
02:48:05,490 --> 02:48:03,460
I couldn't even tell you the last time I

3881
02:48:07,500 --> 02:48:05,500
had more than two hours sleep just I'm

3882
02:48:09,960 --> 02:48:07,510
it's great I'm having tights like I'm at

3883
02:48:11,639 --> 02:48:09,970
a Thanksgiving banquet it's all people

3884
02:48:12,870 --> 02:48:11,649
that are just magnetically attracted to

3885
02:48:15,530 --> 02:48:12,880
and people that are drawn to magical

3886
02:48:19,590 --> 02:48:15,540
Egypt but yeah I'm just

3887
02:48:21,870 --> 02:48:19,600
Christopher's Dunn's new book arts I

3888
02:48:23,099 --> 02:48:21,880
read it's work you know honestly I

3889
02:48:25,679 --> 02:48:23,109
learned a lot about it from watching

3890
02:48:29,280 --> 02:48:25,689
your interviews with them those were

3891
02:48:32,160 --> 02:48:29,290
just fantastically amazing um Aaron you

3892
02:48:34,080 --> 02:48:32,170
know Aaron is my surrogate bring Aaron

3893
02:48:38,880 --> 02:48:34,090
such an educated person they throw such

3894
02:48:41,370 --> 02:48:38,890
a wide net and but it's a very weird

3895
02:48:43,349 --> 02:48:41,380
thing that there's so many branches of

3896
02:48:45,240 --> 02:48:43,359
the science that are mad at Egyptology

3897
02:48:46,620 --> 02:48:45,250
because no one will listen to them and

3898
02:48:48,300 --> 02:48:46,630
no matter how conclusive their evidence

3899
02:48:50,399 --> 02:48:48,310
they never get an arena to present their

3900
02:48:52,170 --> 02:48:50,409
evidence so one of the things I wanted

3901
02:48:54,870 --> 02:48:52,180
to do it kind of keep Jon's work alive

3902
02:48:56,939 --> 02:48:54,880
and keep the momentum going is throw

3903
02:48:58,769 --> 02:48:56,949
open like how many other scientists out

3904
02:49:01,490 --> 02:48:58,779
there are like me who have an expertise

3905
02:49:03,330 --> 02:49:01,500
in their craft and who can demonstrate

3906
02:49:05,189 --> 02:49:03,340
something that advanced is our

3907
02:49:07,219 --> 02:49:05,199
understanding of ancient Egypt so we

3908
02:49:09,800 --> 02:49:07,229
have musical engineers we have

3909
02:49:11,960 --> 02:49:09,810
we have philosophy majors we have lots

3910
02:49:14,179 --> 02:49:11,970
of technical scientists for some reason

3911
02:49:15,170 --> 02:49:14,189
almost every one of them is musician or

3912
02:49:18,229 --> 02:49:15,180
has something to do with the

3913
02:49:19,880 --> 02:49:18,239
overdeveloped right brain but avarice

3914
02:49:21,439 --> 02:49:19,890
loose is one of those people like Aaron

3915
02:49:25,059 --> 02:49:21,449
where he's just highly educated he's an

3916
02:49:30,340 --> 02:49:25,069
intellectual but he just he brings that

3917
02:49:33,319 --> 02:49:30,350
organized mind and that intellect to

3918
02:49:35,469 --> 02:49:33,329
demonstrating the intelligence in the

3919
02:49:37,340 --> 02:49:35,479
the grades or the degree of

3920
02:49:39,260 --> 02:49:37,350
consciousness you know Plato had this

3921
02:49:40,790 --> 02:49:39,270
pyramid of consciousness where most

3922
02:49:43,210 --> 02:49:40,800
people operate in this lowest rung of

3923
02:49:45,319 --> 02:49:43,220
consciousness which is just your

3924
02:49:47,229 --> 02:49:45,329
unconscious making you do things and you

3925
02:49:49,700 --> 02:49:47,239
know maybe five ten percent of your

3926
02:49:52,219 --> 02:49:49,710
decisions are actually consciously made

3927
02:49:53,630 --> 02:49:52,229
and so that's the lowest rung on the

3928
02:49:55,760 --> 02:49:53,640
pyramid and then above that there's

3929
02:49:57,710 --> 02:49:55,770
what's called geometric thought when you

3930
02:49:59,000 --> 02:49:57,720
use logic and reason to actually get

3931
02:50:01,340 --> 02:49:59,010
someplace in your mind and you're not

3932
02:50:03,500 --> 02:50:01,350
just constantly reacting avoiding pain

3933
02:50:04,790 --> 02:50:03,510
and seeking pleasure and so that's

3934
02:50:06,019 --> 02:50:04,800
pretty important to make that leap from

3935
02:50:08,300 --> 02:50:06,029
the first step to the second but then

3936
02:50:10,729 --> 02:50:08,310
the third step is this thing that is

3937
02:50:12,439 --> 02:50:10,739
what hermeticism is all about getting

3938
02:50:14,120 --> 02:50:12,449
you to this place where you're not only

3939
02:50:17,389 --> 02:50:14,130
able to draw on logic but you're able to

3940
02:50:21,080 --> 02:50:17,399
draw on this weird sense of knowing this

3941
02:50:23,359 --> 02:50:21,090
intuition that is a natural property of

3942
02:50:24,800 --> 02:50:23,369
consciousness but it's one that because

3943
02:50:27,139 --> 02:50:24,810
in the Western world nobody's trying to

3944
02:50:29,179 --> 02:50:27,149
get there but you know martial arts

3945
02:50:31,130 --> 02:50:29,189
movies and old stories magic Harry

3946
02:50:33,229 --> 02:50:31,140
Potter all this stuff is still in our

3947
02:50:35,330 --> 02:50:33,239
psyche because this is all stuff we can

3948
02:50:36,500 --> 02:50:35,340
do this is all stuff that you can do you

3949
02:50:37,910 --> 02:50:36,510
know if you were raised in a culture

3950
02:50:39,260 --> 02:50:37,920
that never let you get out of the chair

3951
02:50:40,670 --> 02:50:39,270
you'd be surprised to find out that you

3952
02:50:43,569 --> 02:50:40,680
can get up and walk around and maybe

3953
02:50:47,090 --> 02:50:43,579
even run you know that seems paranormal

3954
02:50:49,700 --> 02:50:47,100
no that's true and Arthur verse Lewis

3955
02:50:50,750 --> 02:50:49,710
you know for the audience that may not

3956
02:50:53,389 --> 02:50:50,760
know who he is

3957
02:50:55,939 --> 02:50:53,399
he is a professor at the department

3958
02:50:58,550 --> 02:50:55,949
chair of Religious Studies in the

3959
02:51:02,960 --> 02:50:58,560
College of Arts and Letters at Michigan

3960
02:51:08,809 --> 02:51:02,970
State University yeah very impressive

3961
02:51:13,630 --> 02:51:08,819
Kath and here he is speaking at your

3962
02:51:17,389 --> 02:51:13,640
symposium is this further evidence of

3963
02:51:22,139 --> 02:51:17,399
professional academics starting to come

3964
02:51:29,080 --> 02:51:25,480
a Robert Schoch for instance where

3965
02:51:31,900 --> 02:51:29,090
they're starting to blend a little bit

3966
02:51:34,450 --> 02:51:31,910
are we starting to overlap yeah Robert

3967
02:51:36,310 --> 02:51:34,460
was an early adopter and it's why he's

3968
02:51:38,860 --> 02:51:36,320
just so a million reasons he's an

3969
02:51:41,620 --> 02:51:38,870
awesome guy um yeah it's starting the

3970
02:51:43,150 --> 02:51:41,630
tide is turning there was a new when

3971
02:51:48,310 --> 02:51:43,160
John was still alive we talked about

3972
02:51:49,900 --> 02:51:48,320
about this in Russia a new dictionary or

3973
02:51:52,780 --> 02:51:49,910
encyclopedia the new you know whatever

3974
02:51:54,870 --> 02:51:52,790
the big encyclopedias there came out and

3975
02:51:57,250 --> 02:51:54,880
for the first time in Orthodox

3976
02:51:59,080 --> 02:51:57,260
educational publication acknowledged

3977
02:52:02,560 --> 02:51:59,090
John West Sphinx theory as a viable

3978
02:52:03,880 --> 02:52:02,570
alternative to Egyptology so very slowly

3979
02:52:05,980 --> 02:52:03,890
and then you know when gobekli tepe

3980
02:52:09,250 --> 02:52:05,990
happened that was just you know that was

3981
02:52:11,710 --> 02:52:09,260
the slam dunk very slowly fields who

3982
02:52:13,990 --> 02:52:11,720
don't have an axe to grind are joining

3983
02:52:16,030 --> 02:52:14,000
the fight so it takes me so long to

3984
02:52:18,070 --> 02:52:16,040
produce the formal episodes of Egypt but

3985
02:52:19,870 --> 02:52:18,080
we've snow balled and snow balled we're

3986
02:52:21,820 --> 02:52:19,880
all these like minds are coming together

3987
02:52:23,380 --> 02:52:21,830
and our think tank that was originally

3988
02:52:26,320 --> 02:52:23,390
just three of us and then it was five of

3989
02:52:28,719 --> 02:52:26,330
us and now there's 30 or 40 people in

3990
02:52:32,530 --> 02:52:28,729
this collective and we're all bringing

3991
02:52:35,500 --> 02:52:32,540
our core aptitudes and are all you know

3992
02:52:37,960 --> 02:52:35,510
our weird savant isms to this subject

3993
02:52:39,550 --> 02:52:37,970
and so i've got tired of being the

3994
02:52:40,780 --> 02:52:39,560
bottleneck in all this that we can only

3995
02:52:43,780 --> 02:52:40,790
go as fast as i can produce these shows

3996
02:52:45,580 --> 02:52:43,790
and so Venise has created this symposium

3997
02:52:47,290 --> 02:52:45,590
so that the world doesn't have to wait

3998
02:52:49,389 --> 02:52:47,300
for me to get around to building all

3999
02:52:53,950 --> 02:52:49,399
these episodes that we just have this

4000
02:52:55,780 --> 02:52:53,960
festival of troublemakers who are really

4001
02:52:58,060 --> 02:52:55,790
redefining humanity they're redefining

4002
02:52:59,679 --> 02:52:58,070
consciousness and they're not a bunch of

4003
02:53:02,200 --> 02:52:59,689
new-age nut cases you live in Los

4004
02:53:04,300 --> 02:53:02,210
Angeles you know I'm sure you know more

4005
02:53:05,980 --> 02:53:04,310
coups per square inch like you know Los

4006
02:53:07,630 --> 02:53:05,990
Angeles is second only to San Francisco

4007
02:53:11,770 --> 02:53:07,640
Los Angeles is so full of insane people

4008
02:53:15,160 --> 02:53:11,780
and it kind of ruins the genre for

4009
02:53:17,560 --> 02:53:15,170
careful meticulous scientists and so all

4010
02:53:19,270 --> 02:53:17,570
of the people who really understand that

4011
02:53:21,280 --> 02:53:19,280
there's legitimate science to be done

4012
02:53:23,350 --> 02:53:21,290
here and this giant field of snow that

4013
02:53:26,290 --> 02:53:23,360
no one's walked on because there's so

4014
02:53:28,510 --> 02:53:26,300
many fences around it it's a chance for

4015
02:53:29,650 --> 02:53:28,520
really bright forward-thinking people to

4016
02:53:32,591 --> 02:53:29,660
make a name for themselves by

4017
02:53:34,451 --> 02:53:32,601
demonstrating that as I said the rest

4018
02:53:36,071 --> 02:53:34,461
the sciences should be consulted before

4019
02:53:37,541 --> 02:53:36,081
the last word is said about Egypt and

4020
02:53:39,430 --> 02:53:37,551
when you look at it through the eyes of

4021
02:53:40,571 --> 02:53:39,440
the sciences it's a whole different

4022
02:53:42,701 --> 02:53:40,581
animal and it's more like a science

4023
02:53:45,131 --> 02:53:42,711
fiction so it's like a crashed UFO that

4024
02:53:48,511 --> 02:53:45,141
we reverse-engineer rather than some you

4025
02:53:51,220 --> 02:53:48,521
know archaic historical curiosity we've

4026
02:53:54,640 --> 02:53:51,230
got to say goodnight but I want to ask

4027
02:53:56,770 --> 02:53:54,650
you this with all of the knowledge that

4028
02:54:00,011 --> 02:53:56,780
you have surrounded yourself with

4029
02:54:06,961 --> 02:54:00,021
starting with a shock and jaws and all I

4030
02:54:10,121 --> 02:54:06,971
like that shock and Giles to today

4031
02:54:16,541 --> 02:54:10,131
chance what what is the one thing that

4032
02:54:19,440 --> 02:54:16,551
that you have learned I would say the

4033
02:54:22,930 --> 02:54:19,450
thing that I learned the big top line is

4034
02:54:24,970 --> 02:54:22,940
this is a story it's not a religion it's

4035
02:54:26,921 --> 02:54:24,980
a science it's a science that was

4036
02:54:28,841 --> 02:54:26,931
directed at me it was a science it was

4037
02:54:30,791 --> 02:54:28,851
directed at you this is not for

4038
02:54:32,831 --> 02:54:30,801
academics this is for everyone with a

4039
02:54:35,081 --> 02:54:32,841
brain that wants to understand it this

4040
02:54:36,400 --> 02:54:35,091
is for everyone who recognizes something

4041
02:54:38,621 --> 02:54:36,410
they can't put into words

4042
02:54:40,060 --> 02:54:38,631
in ancient Egypt one of the reasons I'm

4043
02:54:42,161 --> 02:54:40,070
excited about getting you on the show is

4044
02:54:45,730 --> 02:54:42,171
that you are a unique individual that

4045
02:54:47,860 --> 02:54:45,740
you're a clearinghouse for the greatest

4046
02:54:49,751 --> 02:54:47,870
minds on earth and all of those most

4047
02:54:52,360 --> 02:54:49,761
amazing ideas have all channeled through

4048
02:54:53,560 --> 02:54:52,370
your brain and so I'm really excited

4049
02:54:56,911 --> 02:54:53,570
about getting in there and walking

4050
02:55:00,131 --> 02:54:56,921
around and we're gonna do that and I'll

4051
02:55:02,980 --> 02:55:00,141
leave you with this what I have learned

4052
02:55:05,591 --> 02:55:02,990
with everything that I have compiled and

4053
02:55:10,390 --> 02:55:05,601
I'm you're absolutely right it is off

4054
02:55:16,180 --> 02:55:10,400
I'm like a calendar like a draining

4055
02:55:18,911 --> 02:55:16,190
spaghetti right filter is that we don't

4056
02:55:21,911 --> 02:55:18,921
know nothing yeah we're just getting we

4057
02:55:24,610 --> 02:55:21,921
don't you know Hancock when he says we

4058
02:55:28,140 --> 02:55:24,620
have amnesia he's not kidding about that

4059
02:55:32,560 --> 02:55:28,150
you know we know absolutely nothing and

4060
02:55:35,560 --> 02:55:32,570
they they have made sure that we don't

4061
02:55:37,511 --> 02:55:35,570
learn and that's that's really the truth

4062
02:55:40,511 --> 02:55:37,521
and when I say they I'm talking about

4063
02:55:42,970 --> 02:55:40,521
collectively color corporations and

4064
02:55:44,010 --> 02:55:42,980
governments and and religions and

4065
02:55:46,349 --> 02:55:44,020
schools

4066
02:55:50,659 --> 02:55:46,359
or they'd have choked us down and choked

4067
02:55:54,059 --> 02:55:50,669
us down and choked us down I had I had a

4068
02:55:54,929 --> 02:55:54,069
teacher in eighth grade I don't remember

4069
02:55:57,569 --> 02:55:54,939
his name

4070
02:56:02,309 --> 02:55:57,579
but he taught this class Indiana history

4071
02:56:05,039 --> 02:56:02,319
and in this class and that that this is

4072
02:56:07,309 --> 02:56:05,049
how outside of the box this guy was and

4073
02:56:10,619 --> 02:56:07,319
he was probably sixty sixty-five

4074
02:56:13,590 --> 02:56:10,629
compared to education today in eighth

4075
02:56:17,159 --> 02:56:13,600
grade right he actually uttered these

4076
02:56:21,359 --> 02:56:17,169
words and I never forgot it changed my

4077
02:56:23,969 --> 02:56:21,369
life he goes and Graham Hancock talks

4078
02:56:28,289 --> 02:56:23,979
about it today but this was an eighth

4079
02:56:32,639 --> 02:56:28,299
grade in Indiana he said three miles of

4080
02:56:34,949 --> 02:56:32,649
ice came across Canada in the United

4081
02:56:39,019 --> 02:56:34,959
States and flattened everything out I

4082
02:56:43,769 --> 02:56:39,029
need you to imagine three miles of ice

4083
02:56:46,880 --> 02:56:43,779
above your head right now and now okay

4084
02:56:50,939 --> 02:56:46,890
so then he says and then I stopped and

4085
02:56:53,819 --> 02:56:50,949
left these mounds that are across

4086
02:56:56,909 --> 02:56:53,829
southern Indiana that were built by a

4087
02:57:00,090 --> 02:56:56,919
culture and a civilization that we know

4088
02:57:02,340 --> 02:57:00,100
nothing about and I stopped and I just

4089
02:57:05,039 --> 02:57:02,350
thought about the significance of what

4090
02:57:07,649 --> 02:57:05,049
right they don't teach that today in

4091
02:57:11,159 --> 02:57:07,659
school yeah how radical was that teacher

4092
02:57:14,340 --> 02:57:11,169
and today it's graham hancock and you

4093
02:57:17,460 --> 02:57:14,350
and shock and others that are bringing

4094
02:57:21,090 --> 02:57:17,470
this back to us because we have amnesia

4095
02:57:24,269 --> 02:57:21,100
and we want to know if there is anything

4096
02:57:26,489 --> 02:57:24,279
to that idea of anamnesis we already

4097
02:57:28,019 --> 02:57:26,499
know you know when you get your brain

4098
02:57:30,059 --> 02:57:28,029
split or when they were doing the split

4099
02:57:31,499 --> 02:57:30,069
brain experience experiments in the 70s

4100
02:57:33,510 --> 02:57:31,509
your right brain would know something in

4101
02:57:34,769 --> 02:57:33,520
your left brain would know that you know

4102
02:57:36,389 --> 02:57:34,779
it but it didn't know how you knew it

4103
02:57:38,279 --> 02:57:36,399
and it's this weird like a second

4104
02:57:40,349 --> 02:57:38,289
intuition is people know there's

4105
02:57:41,699 --> 02:57:40,359
something there we want we know it and

4106
02:57:44,369 --> 02:57:41,709
we're just waiting for somebody to say

4107
02:57:47,609 --> 02:57:44,379
it yeah it's so funny now when when

4108
02:57:49,499 --> 02:57:47,619
anything just smells a little funny when

4109
02:57:51,659 --> 02:57:49,509
you hear something or when you're toss

4110
02:57:53,519 --> 02:57:51,669
something people just jump on the

4111
02:57:56,310 --> 02:57:53,529
keyboard now they can go and research

4112
02:57:57,900 --> 02:57:56,320
they can call you on

4113
02:58:00,480 --> 02:57:57,910
but you are saying and I'm talking about

4114
02:58:02,970 --> 02:58:00,490
governments and and universities and

4115
02:58:06,930 --> 02:58:02,980
school systems you know if you if you're

4116
02:58:09,150 --> 02:58:06,940
gonna feed a line of BS I want to use

4117
02:58:11,070 --> 02:58:09,160
other words but if you're going to feed

4118
02:58:13,591 --> 02:58:11,080
that line you better be able to back it

4119
02:58:16,501 --> 02:58:13,601
up because today we have the ability to

4120
02:58:18,421 --> 02:58:16,511
call you on it and that's that's why I

4121
02:58:20,430 --> 02:58:18,431
love where we are today and the fact

4122
02:58:23,461 --> 02:58:20,440
that you're doing the symposium thank

4123
02:58:25,560 --> 02:58:23,471
you so much chance I said that's a give

4124
02:58:28,051 --> 02:58:25,570
my best to Venise and I will see you

4125
02:58:31,261 --> 02:58:28,061
bright and early you keep saying saying

4126
02:58:33,450 --> 02:58:31,271
tomorrow evening it's not for us here it

4127
02:58:35,220 --> 02:58:33,460
is oh that's right right right don't

4128
02:58:37,560 --> 02:58:35,230
listen to my time my local time it's all

4129
02:58:39,150 --> 02:58:37,570
sadistically late for no but where's a

4130
02:58:40,980 --> 02:58:39,160
good friendly time for the states and

4131
02:58:44,011 --> 02:58:40,990
for Europe and we're starting at noon

4132
02:58:48,240 --> 02:58:44,021
tomorrow right that's my time okay I'm

4133
02:58:51,990 --> 02:58:49,860
give my best to Venise and I'll see you

4134
02:58:55,740 --> 02:58:52,000
first thing in the morning there's a

4135
02:58:57,390 --> 02:58:55,750
chance Gardner magical Egypt I've got to

4136
02:59:01,440 --> 02:58:57,400
get out of here I'm looking at the clock

4137
02:59:03,870 --> 02:59:01,450
and man I ran to the very end and I'll

4138
02:59:05,280 --> 02:59:03,880
see everybody tomorrow it is magical

4139
02:59:07,680 --> 02:59:05,290
Egypt calm

4140
02:59:09,660 --> 02:59:07,690
go and get your symposium tickets tents

4141
02:59:11,860 --> 02:59:09,670
and I are gonna kick it off tomorrow for

4142
02:59:14,210 --> 02:59:11,870
three hours

4143
02:59:16,040 --> 02:59:14,220
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4158
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network I'll see everybody tomorrow the

4159
02:59:51,650 --> 02:59:49,020
symposium tomorrow night Jason rice is

4160
02:59:54,780 --> 02:59:51,660
here until then everybody be saved

4161
03:00:04,260 --> 02:59:54,790
go back late Fe

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